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Game of Thrones rewatch (Comparing to HotD)

Posted on 7/17/24 at 11:19 am
Posted by heisenberg88
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 11:19 am
I recently began my third rewatch of GoT (first since HotD has been out) and I love seeing all the little moments that make this show great. But comparing it to HotD, it is way more clunky, less elegant, etc. Of course the Targaryens had a sense of pomp and pageantry, but even the little things like the small council balls are gone by the time the show starts. Does anyone else feel this way or is it just recency bias on my part?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 11:27 am to
Well like you said, the Targaryens had much more pomp about them. They were the unquestioned Royal Family and had generations to build up their traditions and spectacle. Following the Rebellion, it makes sense that much of that would be abandoned.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 12:32 pm to
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But comparing it to HotD, it is way more clunky, less elegant, etc.


You have to keep in mind that GoT had to introduce viewers to a HUGE world and navigate introducing TONS of characters. HotD gets to stand on the groundwork and knowledge already laid out in GoT while also having a MUCH smaller worldview and cast of characters to properly give screen time to.

Not to mention the budget differences.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 1:14 pm to
be carefully for spoilers because Joffrey tells Margaery Tyrell how HotD ends
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 1:31 pm to
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be carefully for spoilers because Joffrey tells Margaery Tyrell how HotD ends


Anyone with a brain knows that it will end when both sides make up and have a laugh at how petty they were all acting.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 1:42 pm to
I'm rewatching the show for the first time and that scene definitely spoiled HoTD for me.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 1:44 pm to
I also started a rewatch recently. It’s pretty evident that GOT had to walk before it could run whereas HOTD benefitted greatly from the production experiences of GOT. In a way, GOT first season just feels dated because of how it was shot and paced with all new characters; it had to come into its own as a show whereas HOTD could hit the ground damn near sprinting. HOTD knows through the experience of GOT what notes it needs to hit to remain appointment television and what NOT to do to repeat the sins of those final seasons. GOT in some cases literally had to make it up as it went along.

Too, a rewatch is a startling reminder how young the cast of GOT was in that first season compared to the group HOTD is working with. Just a different cast dynamic, production experience, and general audience knowledge between the two shows.
This post was edited on 7/17/24 at 1:46 pm
Posted by NotoriousFSU
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 4:59 pm to
I’m currently on S1 of my rewatch after years of swearing I would never again allow myself to get hurt again. But, time heals all wounds and I’m ready to hurt again. However, I’m thoroughly enjoying it so far. I actually think even the first season of GoT contains greater substance than most of HotD, albeit this is a rematch so I know what happens and am actively looking for things that come into play later down the road vs HotD where I don’t know much of the storyline, only how it ends thanks to Joffrey. I’ve been rewatching the HotD previous episode before the new episodes drop on Sundays, but even so I’m not able to view it in the same regard as GoT due to the aforementioned reason. I’m sure as time passes and eventually after its finale I’ll have a different opinion and better appreciation for the story, but honestly that might not occur till I get to S6. At that point I’ll probably regret even starting the rewatch entirely. Till then, it’s a fun ride.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:23 pm to
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how HotD ends


There are a lot of things that happen after that.
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 6:16 pm to
I’m on S6E7 and have thoroughly enjoyed the rewatch. Seasons 1-6 are TV perfection in my eyes outside of the terrible Sand Snakes & Dorne storyline in S6.
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 6:17 pm to
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I’m currently on S1 of my rewatch after years of swearing I would never again allow myself to get hurt again. But, time heals all wounds and I’m ready to hurt again. However, I’m thoroughly enjoying it so far

Its a great show. I do find the characters better than HoTD for the most part. I like hotd also but it isn't peak got
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 7:24 pm to
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be carefully for spoilers because Joffrey tells Margaery Tyrell how HotD ends

I remember this scene but I don't remember exactly what he said. hmmmm
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 7:34 pm to
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less elegant, etc


Tbh the writing in HoD feels much more stale as a result. The biggest draw factor in GOT, to me, was the "rawness". Felt like we were watching actual people instead of greek deities
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 7:59 pm to
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Tbh the writing in HoD feels much more stale as a result. The biggest draw factor in GOT, to me, was the "rawness". Felt like we were watching actual people instead of greek deities

agree with this

I like HOTD so far but the Starks and other northerners, Baratheons, etc. > the Targaryens & Velaryons
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 9:36 pm to
Well, one of the days of my rewatch’s reckoning has finally caught up to me. Seems I’ve reached an impasse. The Red Wedding is on deck. I know what I have to do, but I don’t know if I have the strength to do it. I just can’t bring myself to say goodbye again.



Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Anyone with a brain knows that it will end when both sides make up and have a laugh at how petty they were all acting.

It's the finding of common ground between the Greens & Blacks that I'm looking most forward to.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:29 pm to
I'm going back and re-watching S1 of HOTD once this season wraps, much like I did GOT after S2. The level of world-building across both series is really impressive.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:43 pm to
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I actually think even the first season of GoT contains greater substance than most of HotD, albeit this is a rematch so I know what happens and am actively looking for things that come into play later down the road vs HotD where I don’t know much of the storyline, only how it ends thanks to Joffrey


Outside of the dragon battle episode, there is nothing that HotD has done in two seasons that can even remotely touch anything from season 1 of Game of Thrones. Seasons 1-3 of GoT are pretty much perfect television. That's why the fall off in seasons 6-8 hurt so bad.

Even if HotD continues to get better, it won't be anything near what GoT early seasons were.

Hearing some people in this thread talk about HotD running while GoT had to walk is wild to me. I don't care if some of the sets look better in HotD, there is almost nothing story wise or character wise that HotD does better than GoT. And I like HotD, that's not a knock on it.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:56 pm to
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there is almost nothing story wise or character wise that HotD does better than GoT
that’s a George Martin problem though not a screenwriter/showrunner/actor/budget problem. If they strayed off and added comic relief or exotic locations or major plot changes then it wouldn’t be the story that Martin wrote
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 3:14 pm to
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that’s a George Martin problem though not a screenwriter/showrunner/actor/budget problem.


Sure it is. They knew the project they were taking on. Game of Thrones guys obviously had much more to work with but the HotD guys knew what they were getting into and that quite a bit of it was going to have to be original content/dialogue. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a challenge but they were given the basis for a good story and they had to fill in the gaps. It's not a GRRM problem for writing a history book, he wrote what he wanted, a Targaryen history book, nobody was required to adapt that for TV. There wouldn't be a single person complaining if HotD had written one of the characters to be a Bronn type character that made you chuckle every now and then. You're not turning the show into a comedy or changing the theme of the show, you're just adding something that is missing from this series.

I could take it a step farther and say that they have made a show where you don't really care what happens to the majority of the characters. Almost two seasons in now and ANY of the characters on HoTd could die and nobody would care half as much as we did after one season of Ned Stark, and Ned wasn't even the most liked character.
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