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re: Game of Thrones 2:2, SPOILERS HERE - FOR ALL BOOK READERS

Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:24 pm to
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not to mention the complications of pushing it back. Assuming Winterfell is sacked this season, is it burned to the ground w/ no Ramsey Bolton cast? If it is burned, does Bran attempt to go N of the wall w/ just he and Hodor? If Osha goes w/ them in place of the Reeds, what about Rickon? Maybe Luwin survives the raid and dies on the journey and then they bring in the Reeds I'd still like to see them cover the green dreams etc being that they're such a factor in why Bran goes on his journey








Agree completely

but
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w/ no Ramsey Bolton cast


I heard he was already cast? I could be wrong though.
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:28 pm to
Roose, no Ramsey.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:32 pm to
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Roose, no Ramsey.



I gotcha.


They must be leaving out the majority of Bran's storyline this season then.

Horrible idea imo
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 6:33 pm
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:48 pm to
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If she would've married him then yes it would have been a HUGE deal. But she did not.

Hindsight.
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boring reading that ended up not amounting to anything until the last chapter

My point.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:53 pm to
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Hindsight.



Of course it is which is why I said

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the fact is we don't know and neither do the writers so as long as it looks like it will be a big deal it needs to be treated as such.


and also why I made sure to specify that

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I never said it wasn't a big deal. You said that


Which you seem to want to ignore.

and just because something is boring reading doesn't mean it won't eventually be important.
Posted by ATLienTiger
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:09 pm to
As for the Mummers dragon, initially I thought he was indeed the mummers dragon. Frankly I still believe he is a fake, but who knows the kid believed he was Rhaegar's son, and Connington told him he was, but.... I really dunno. I think he's a fake, hope hes a fake.

But yes, that is probably how they will tie into Dany.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:11 pm to
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Jojen and Meera


Why?

Are we sure we won't see the frog eaters?


They don't come into play until the sacking of Winterfell.
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 7:12 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:23 pm to
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Why? Are we sure we won't see the frog eaters? They don't come into play until the sacking of Winterfell.



They haven't been cast yet I don't believe
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:25 pm to
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but who knows the kid believed he was Rhaegar's son,



If I grew up being told I was the son of one the biggest badasses and the most loved knight in the 7 kingdoms I would believe it to

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and Connington told him he was


He could quite possibly have ulterior motives.

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I really dunno. I think he's a fake, hope hes a fake.


agreed
Posted by ATLienTiger
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:57 pm to
But Imma stop now, since I feel the majority of the TD readership havent finished ADWD
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:59 pm to
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But Imma stop now, since I feel the majority of the TD readership havent finished ADWD



This thread is for people who have read ALL the books...


If they don't want to see ADWD spoilers they shouldn't be in this thread
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:07 pm to
I posted this in another thread a couple of weeks ago but I'm still thinking Connington was being played by Toyne, the previous commander of the Golden Company. There was a passing mention that the male line of Blackfyres ended when Selmy slew Maely the Monstrous but little vague qualifiers like that should throw up huge warning flags to Martin fans.

I was already pretty confident in Aegon being a descendant of the female line of Daemon Blackfyre when I visited Tower of the Hand and came across the theory that Illyrio's late lover Serra might have been a Blackfyre. That fits pretty well since its easy enough to see Varys as an agent of the Golden Company but Illyrio with his vast wealth is harder to really pin down. Aegon as the son of Illyrio and a Blackfyre descendant would explain a lot of things.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:13 pm to
I've thought about aegon being a descendant of the blackfyre line myself I've just never really seen anything convincing enough to prove me right.

Do you have a link to the Tower of the hand article?
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:29 pm to
It was a message board thread but I looked and couldn't find it again. There were lots of theories concerning Varys and Illyrio and their motivations. The one about Serra really caught my attention though.

Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:30 pm to
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The one about Serra really caught my attention though.


Que?
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:35 pm to
Does the black pirate get to bang the queen. If so, I'll make sure to keep watching. I gotta know how he'd pull that one off.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:36 pm to
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Does the black pirate get to bang the queen. If so, I'll make sure to keep watching. I gotta know how he'd pull that one off.



This is not the thread you want to be in
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:51 pm to
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Does the black pirate get to bang the queen. If so, I'll make sure to keep watching. I gotta know how he'd pull that one off.




This is not the thread you want to be in

Oh. Is that not in the books?
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:54 pm to
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Oh. Is that not in the books?



Oh no, its in there but this thread will ruin the whole series for you
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:12 pm to
If you just want to know about the black pirate and the Queen, I'll tell you this. Davos, being the great smuggler he is, sneaks him into Kings Landing where he captures Joffrey and makes him watch as he violates Cersei again and again and again. As she has now gone black and can never go back, Cersei joins forces with Stannis.
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 9:13 pm
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