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re: Game of Thrones: Who should get to kill ________? (spoilers)
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:21 pm to Fearthehat0307
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:21 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:
you'd have to refresh my memory on what i said and in what context.
I believe you said you considered hunting girls like animals for sport, does in fact rape them when he catches them, murders them and names his dogs after them "Friday night"
And I don't even know if there is a context for something like that.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:21 pm to ladytiger118
quote:
If someone held me up at gunpoint
no gun was used
quote:
does that mean it's not rape because I agree to it because I wanted to keep my life?
Were you married? Is the law and expectations in your "homeland" that women are the PROPERTY of the husband? Did you say (to HIM at least).."yes, I'll marry you" and did you tell him "NO! Don't do that!" when he entered you?
silliness.
from RAMSAY's point of view:
he is married..in a time when MEN had all the power.
Not rape.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:23 pm to Fearthehat0307
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ramsay was under the impression it was consensual and sansa did nothing to make him think otherwise.
The only impression Ramsey was under was that he was gonna screw with this girl mentally, and physically. He gave absolutely 0 fricks if it was consensual or not.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:23 pm to Bamatab
quote:that is another situation and was rape, the sansa fun time was not.
does in fact rape them when he catches them
and what I do on my Friday nights is none of your concern
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:24 pm to KingSlayer
Ser Pounce
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:24 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
no gun was used
Was her life in danger if she refused?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:25 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Why are so many calling that "rape"
It was on her wedding night, she did NOT say "no" or try to fight it. It was unpleasant sex for her. It was degrading for her. But, it was in no way..."rape". She made a decision to go along with this scenario. She doesn't LIKE what she has to do. But, it is 'willing' in that sense.
oh my god
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:26 pm to Bamatab
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Was her life in danger if she refused?
Don't think that matters in this case
and, to celebrate this thread, I offer dinner:
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:26 pm to Bamatab
quote:irrelevant. It appeared consensual and she didn't give indication it wasn't.
He gave absolutely 0 fricks if it was consensual or not.
the what if game is being used to prove rape in this thread. the what if scenarios didn't happen so it doesn't matter
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:28 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:they are trying to use what if arguments to convict ramsay here
Don't think that matters in this case
if BHP takes a girl from the bar home and has sex with her with the intent of killing her if she refuses but she doesn't refuse and has consensual sex with BHP and then goes on her merry way did BHP commit a crime? no
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:28 pm to Fearthehat0307
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again with these unrelated scenarios.
They're completely related. If LF cared what Sansa had to say on this matter, he would have counseled her about it back in the Vale. Sansa also didn't know that Ramsay was a mass murdering psychopath who mutilated and tortured her father's ward before she was really forced to agree to it in Moat Cailyn.
What the frick do you think would have happened to Sansa if she said no at the alter or to sex with Ramsay? Let's play through the scenarios here. She already knows that one of Ramsay's girls was fed to his bitches, and he makes an idle threat to her. Do you think if she said no at the wedding or at the bedding, Ramsay and Roose would have been "Oh, that's ok"? No, best case they would have beaten the shite out of her, and worst case they would have either fed her to Ramsay's dogs or flayed her alive (along with Theon). You act as if she's got attractive options here. This is ridiculous and simply misogynistic.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:29 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:
she didn't give indication it wasn't.
Yeah, she looked thrilled to be there, and didn't wince at all when he had her go face down on the mattress.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:29 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:
if BHP takes a girl from the bar home and has sex with her with the intent of killing her if she refuses but she doesn't refuse and has consensual sex with BHP and then goes on her merry way did BHP commit a crime?
FAWK MAN!!!
That post alone is gonna have me in cuffs and answering some questions!!
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:30 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
does that mean it's not rape because I agree to it because I wanted to keep my life?
Were you married? Is the law and expectations in your "homeland" that women are the PROPERTY of the husband?
If what Ramsey did was rape, then Catelyn Tully was raped by Eddard Stark on their wedding night.
Let that sink in.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:31 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
If what Ramsey did was rape, then Catelyn Tully was raped by Eddard Stark on their wedding night.
Let that sink in.
No, Catelyn Tully wouldn't have been flayed or fed to the dog if she refused Ned. Sansa would've been and she knew it.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:31 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:routine Tuesday for you though
That post alone is gonna have me in cuffs and answering some questions!!
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:33 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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If what Ramsey did was rape, then Catelyn Tully was raped by Eddard Stark on their wedding night.
Let that sink in.
I mean, maybe. She wasn't violently raped or anything, but she may have reluctantly had sex and thought of Brandon the whole time. I doubt it seriously though, since their relationship I think was always defined more by duty than love.
But with Lysa and Jon Arryn? Yeah, definite rape.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:33 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
If what Ramsey did was rape, then Catelyn Tully was raped by Eddard Stark on their wedding night.
Exactly. The whole show has involved people being paired off for political expedience.
frick...the King in the North got chopped up in PART because he went back on his word to marry one Lord's ugly daughter.
he then coerced an uncle(?) to marry one in his place. That dude was not HAPPY about that. But, he fricked up a war plan and was willing to do as he was told.
A LOT of "unions" in this show are based upon "gotta" not "wanna"
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:34 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:No, she consented to the wedding night sex, and it wasn't under duress. He may not have been her first choice, but there were no threats involved.
If what Ramsey did was rape, then Catelyn Tully was raped by Eddard Stark on their wedding night.
Call Ned a rapist again and I'll reach through this screen and rip your dick off.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:35 pm to OMLandshark
quote:you just think everything is rape. that is ridiculous and misandrist
I mean, maybe. She wasn't violently raped or anything, but she may have reluctantly had sex and thought of Brandon the whole time. I doubt it seriously though, since their relationship I think was always defined more by duty than love.
But with Lysa and Jon Arryn? Yeah, definite rape
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