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re: Game of Thrones- Season Long Thread (Newbie Guide in First Post)

Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:15 pm to
PBS
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:33 pm to
Cool. Figured but just wanted to double check. We graduate together?
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:42 pm to
bringing something back up from the first 10 pages after the series pilot, It was mentioned that it didnt reach the numbers that Boardwalk Empire had. It didnt, but i remember Boardwalk Empire was Advertised non stop for like 6 months prior to the air. I do not remember much advertising for GoT. A couple weeks before BE's pilot, Times Square was decked out with BE posters and on ever screen there. I feel this could be a big reason why there wasnt a bigger showing. Thoughts?
Posted by EastTxTiger
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:47 pm to
I stumbled upon GoT while bored one Sunday night. I was looking at old Sopranos episodes to watch and watched the GoT preview instead. Solid so far.

Who is the ghost? I failed to recognize this character while watching.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:50 pm to
Ghost is the all-white direwolf belonging to Jon Snow, Ned Stark's bastard.
Posted by EastTxTiger
Dry Desert
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:53 pm to
Ok thanks, I remember that scene.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:58 pm to
yeah i mean boardwalk was there big show. look at the stars and producers attached. You have a big actor in buscemi as the lead with other names like Scorsese attached. Like you said the advertised the hell out of it. If it didnt do well, there was something wrong.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:20 pm to
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So the blacksmith is heir to the Seven Kingdoms? Do I understand that correctly? He's older than the spoiled brat of a prince and - though he is a bastard - has a more legitimate claim to the throne due to age. Am I reading into primogeniture correctly?


Legitimate children have heirship rights over illegitimate children.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

So the blacksmith is heir to the Seven Kingdoms? Do I understand that correctly? He's older than the spoiled brat of a prince and - though he is a bastard - has a more legitimate claim to the throne due to age. Am I reading into primogeniture correctly?


Legitimate children have heirship rights over illegitimate children.


IIRC, in Westeros bastards have no claim to heirship unless he/she is legitimized by king/high septum.


Books or Foul may recall better than I.
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 7:27 pm to
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IIRC, in Westeros bastards have no claim to heirship unless he/she is legitimized by king/high septum.


I think their father can legitimize them.
Posted by Shreveporter
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 8:05 pm to
solid episode. Perfect ending--I am on book 2, so I knew how that scene would play out for the Imp, but the spouse exclaimed, "holy sh*t!" upon hearing the clanging of drawn swords and seeing them pointed at Tyrion's neck. Probably not the best move on Cat's part, but I almost see how she felt backed into a corner (perhaps made a bit clearer in the book though. She did do her best to avoid being "made" on the road to home). Love Arya's character in books and show--hope they show her chasing the actual cats in the next episode like she mentioned while she was balancing on her toes talking to Ned.

I thought it was interesting that Littlefinger revealed the Hound's story to Sansa. Also, Joffrey is being more obvious with his disdain and Sansa is able to detect it (and commented on it to the Septa)--will that allow for a departure from the more love-struck Sansa of the book?
Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 8:38 pm to
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solid episode. Perfect ending--I am on book 2, so I knew how that scene would play out for the Imp, but the spouse exclaimed, "holy sh*t!" upon hearing the clanging of drawn swords and seeing them pointed at Tyrion's neck.


I haven't read the books so the scene was a complete surprise for me. Just seemed odd that Lady Stark would accuse Tyrion of trying to kill her son. The only thing that came to mind is that it was a convenient way to apprehend the man that as you say exposed her over the road trip. Or perhaps she wants to use Tyrion to flush out the real culprit.

The steely scene between the Queen and Lord Stark made it clear that the battle lines have been drawn between them. She's obviously and evil bitch and Stark had a worried look on his face.
Posted by Shreveporter
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 8:50 pm to
I think at that point, she really does believe he was the one who sent the assassin to slit Bran's throat, since Littlefinger had told her Tyrion had won the knife off him from a bet at some tourny where the Knight of Flowers unexpectedly defeated Jaime. I think him seeing her and being able to expose her as riding from King's Landing (where she didn't want it to be revealed she had visited) forced her hand but she ultimately believes in the justice of what she's doing, despite feeling forced into doing it before she might have liked (Ned is supposed to be investigating, looking for more solid evidence beyond just the knife belonging to Tyrion to bring to the King).

quote:

I haven't read the books so the scene was a complete surprise for me


yeah, it was a surprise to Tyrion, too...
This post was edited on 5/9/11 at 8:53 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 10:52 pm to
Thanks for he insight. I remember the scene now but have forgotten that they had deduced that the assassin's knife ultimately had gone to Tyrion. Should be interesting to hear how Tyrion explains the knife. Ack, my brother set me up?
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 5/10/11 at 8:19 am to
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Ack, my brother set me up?

That's funny
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:34 am to
At the risk of revealing too much, there was some clever foreshadowing early in the episode. I'm pretty sure those who have read the books picked it up.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
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Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:38 am to
quote:

At the risk of revealing too much, there was some clever foreshadowing early in the episode. I'm pretty sure those who have read the books picked it up.
I'm fairly confident to what you are referring to, I enjoyed that scene. It was done well.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
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Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:56 am to
quote:

I think their father can legitimize them.


I'm pretty sure only a King (and I guess maybe the high septon) can legitimize a bastard. Of the two instances that I remember from the books, both were done by kings.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:21 am to
quote:


Elizabeth I was technically illegitimate since Henry VIII declared himself head of the church of England to annul his marriage to her mother (Anne Boleyn.)


His marriage to Queen Catherine was annulled, that marriage produced Mary. He had Elizabeth's mother beheaded for fricking her brother.
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