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Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:04 pm to
Boyd going through with torturing Elgin was pretty dumb IMO. Really even the idea of him torturing Elgin. I know that its his daughter-in-law, but she is the one that actually murdered someone. Was it beyond her control? Sure. Well, guess who else is having thoughts and seeing/hearing things beyond his control that caused him to abduct Fatima? Well I guess that's different because....? So, let's just mutilate him to get the answers.

I suppose that its all apart of the evil forces "breaking" Boyd, but Elgin really gets the short end of the stick here.

Second thing is, how in the frick does no one look in the cellar that is right there on the edge of town when they are searching for Fatima? Seems like that would be one of the first places you look.



Anyway, this show is crazy, ridiculous, dumb, etc. but there is obviously something about it that has me watching and enjoying for the most part for 3 seasons now.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Boyd going through with torturing Elgin was pretty dumb IMO. Really even the idea of him torturing Elgin. I know that its his daughter-in-law, but she is the one that actually murdered someone. Was it beyond her control? Sure. Well, guess who else is having thoughts and seeing/hearing things beyond his control that caused him to abduct Fatima? Well I guess that's different because....? So, let's just mutilate him to get the answers.

I suppose that its all apart of the evil forces "breaking" Boyd, but Elgin really gets the short end of the stick here.

Agree with almost all of that. I know Fatima is his family, but like you said she's the one who murdered someone.

That's one reason I really liked Father Khatri in this episode because he kept telling Boyd over and over that Elgin isn't in the wrong if he truly believes he's helping, and if it's the town that controlled him to do this then how the frick is that any different than what Fatima did.

I thought it was more stupid of Boyd to torture him because if you kill the only person who actually knows where she is then you have fricked yourself from finding her. But also, this was what I was saying to my TV last night:
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Second thing is, how in the frick does no one look in the cellar that is right there on the edge of town when they are searching for Fatima? Seems like that would be one of the first places you look.

The only thing about that is that the little room she is in was basically hidden behind multiple walls (and furniture), so if someone checks in there it seems empty and you'd move on. Also, Tabitha and Victor were there and they didn't see or hear Fatima. So I assume the root cellar was checked off as a place Fatima wasn't in.


But ultimately I think it has more to do with the town breaking Boyd than anything else. That's been a subversive theme this whole season, and I think the talks with Khatri and also Donna sort of drive that point home. They talked about how if Boyd does this then it will change who he is going forward. And I think he made that decision to do it knowing what it carried with it and did it anyway. I kept thinking he would back down from it and the tools on the table thing were more just for show to try and intimidate Elgin into talking. But then he pounded his hand with the hammer.

I did think Elgin (who is a big dude) could have fought back and thought it was weird that he didn't. I mean he just sat there and let Boyd tie him up with the tiniest cord imaginable. And he held his hand on the table when Boyd hammered it, when he could've very easily pulled it back.

But I think the whole point was that Boyd's decision to go through with it was him actually "breaking," which was the goal of the town/monsters.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:17 pm to
The Elgin torture was retarded for a more simple reason.

They could have just…not cornered him and let him go to Fatima with those supplies, followed him there…the end.
Posted by MississippiLebowski
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:41 pm to
This was exactly my thought when watching it. Instead of not letting him leave the house, just watch the house and hope he does leave. Follow him and find Fatima. Easy
Posted by CP3forMVP
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:19 pm to
I think Boyd torturing Elgin was supposed to be borderline insane, Khatri said as much. It's showing that Boyd doesn't straddle a line, and he may lose the town because of it. He tortures Elgin, leaves Randall, but does these things for Fatima. Hell if you want to go back to the Sara thing and how he dealt with that versus the father from the first episode of season one. He's purposely polarizing.
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:50 am to
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Julie pops up…..different. Her hair is not only a lot shorter but it’s black now when it was long and brown in the diner with Ethan. Change the story? Ethan said she can’t change the story. But he’s a dipshit so who knows.




Time travel?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:53 am to
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Time travel?

That's clearly what they are insinuating, and I assume it plays into the whole "she can enter the story at multiple points and affect things" angle.

I'm interested to see what they do with that. Although I don't like that so much of this seems to be leaning toward Ethan and his stupid fricking Crominockle bullshite. Because that just means he will be more prominent as the show goes forward.
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:20 am to
I am just glad Elgin is dead. Bro is in a survival situation and wants to make a collage. Gtfo
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:45 am to
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leaning toward Ethan and his stupid fricking Crominockle bullshite


Considering the whole FROM world is partially built on the wishes/dreams of children, it at least makes sense Ethan’s story imagination has power there
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 9:46 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:27 am to
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Considering the whole FROM world is partially built on the wishes/dreams of children, it at least makes sense Ethan’s story imagination has power there

I know, that's what I mean...it gives him and his stupid bullshite credence, which I hate. But that's admittedly because I hate his character and hope he dies soon.
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I am just glad Elgin is dead. Bro is in a survival situation and wants to make a collage. Gtfo

Are we sure Elgin is dead? Or was he just passed out after losing an eye?
Posted by Kovy
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:37 am to
I thought this was a really good entertaining season finale that saved a pretty lackluster season overall. I'm not sure how I feel however about the direction the show is going overall. Time travel, reincarnation, etc..feels like things are going to get very messy going forward. I think this show could make a big mistake if character deaths don't matter like Jim who maybe dead now but is saved in a different timeline.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:40 am to
Jim will be back as a ghost. We will discover that people who die there can choose to have their “energy stay” to be guides until they want to reincarnate.
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:44 am to
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Are we sure Elgin is dead? Or was he just passed out after losing an eye?



Fair question but frick that guy
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:47 am to
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I think this show could make a big mistake if character deaths don't matter like Jim who maybe dead now but is saved in a different timeline.

I do agree with that, although I'm not sure there will be a "different timeline" aspect to it. But who knows.

I'm all for Jim coming back as a ghost like Khatri, Abby, the bartender, etc. That's fine. But if he comes back and deaths don't matter then that's stupid. And to that note, I'm okay with someone like Smiley coming back with how they did it. This place/town is weird as frick and I'm good with something like that,
Posted by ChuckUFarley
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:09 pm to
I'm not sure why Jim would come back. Kahtri is the only one who has and I think it is because he killed a little boy and came clean in the end or the town is using him to gains Boyd's trust to hurt him more later.

I think Julie has either figured out a way to change the future or past. That or she is trying like hell. That will be a big plot to the next season imo.

Curious to see what comes of Jade and Tabitha now, along with Victor. Lots of open avenues here to keep the show going for a long time or the wrong choice will kill it quickly.
Posted by wesfau
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:10 pm to
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I was really hoping that the "baby" Fatima gave up was going to grow into a monster and make her a new monster. Like maybe that's one way that people there become monsters.


I was picturing a chestburster-type scene with a new, more advanced monster.

I do like the mechanism as a way to restock their population. It's probably pretty rare and thus the pomp and circumstance.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 3:22 pm to
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I'm not sure why Jim would come back. Kahtri is the only one who has

He isn’t though. Abby has come back to Boyd. Tom (bartender) has come to Jade (many times). Khatri to Boyd (also many times). Hasn’t Sara seen someone too (her brother maybe).
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or the town is using him to gains Boyd's trust to hurt him more later.

That would be a solid angle too. I’ve contended that very little on the town is there to actually help. Although at least Khatri and the children seem to be trying to help Boyd, Jade/Tabitha, etc.
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I think Julie has either figured out a way to change the future or past. That or she is trying like hell. That will be a big plot to the next season imo.

Would be hilarious if she goes back in time and just contacts the local public works department or DOTD and they clear the downed tree from the road and that fixes everything.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 8:27 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:42 pm to
Boodis is just being edgy to get attention. It seems to be his new schtick.
Posted by cascadia
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:08 pm to
Not a big fan of where they are going with the time travel.
Julie can not alter past but yet she threw the rope down. And I hate the time loop that creates. Also, the monsters can’t run, but smiley tan at victors mom to kill her at the tree?
Intriguing ending and I’ll stay with it but man the season started off hot and really faltered.
Posted by illuminatic
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:22 pm to
I'm just popping in to express how happy I am with Jim's demise. I think I fist pumped when it happened. Idk if it was the character or the actor, but what an absolute tool.
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