re: First look at Galadriel in Amazon’s The Lord of the Rings series

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He clearly lays out how they could have introduced diverse characters and still been true to what Tolkien created.

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YouTuber Eric July lays out this point when he rails on Tokenism. This is done for one reason only...these people only see value in historically white characters.

That's not to say that only white characters ARE valuable, just that they only see value in them.

Take a character like Falcon from Marvel. He's an original black character.



He had his own backstory and history. He had his own powers and abilities. He also did not have "Black" in his name, making him unique in Stan Lee not feeling the need to make him anything other than his own person, without any specific reference to his race...like all the previous white characters. And yet...that wasn't enough. He'd only REALLY be worthwhile until he took over for Captain America, despite everyone knowing Cap is Steve Rogers. So in order to "elevate" Sam Wilson, you have to eject Steve Rogers and kill off Falcon, because only by replacing a historic white character with a black character is their any value apparently. Falcon, it seems, wasn't good enough. That has been done lots of times where characters literally slide sideways into other character's shoes as if it's a promotion rather than an admission that only in these NEW shoes will this character matter to some of these pepole.

What you're seeing with this LOTR show is the exact same thing. Sure, as Drinker says, you could have introduced diverse characters from lands to the south that Tolkien mentioned but did not explore very much, but that would not make them VALUABLE enough! Plus, it would be hard...and hard is harder than easy. Not only do they need to be there, but they need to be shoehorned into places that make no sense...like Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits, etc. Because, those are the only types of characters these people see value in, so instead of making new ones to care about, just stick them in where they don't belong to make a small fraction of "fans" happy while pissing off the vast majority of long time fans, and when they get rightfully mad you can call them "racists," because that'll help.

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I agree with everything you said. The folks who are "okay" with these things just refuse to admit that race swapping is racist against not only the race being removed but also against the race taking its place. Taking a good hard look at their own beliefs would be too difficult, and expose some hard truths, so they blindly ignore what they're supporting and tow the corporate line while imagining themselves to be fighting for the little guy.

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Game of Thrones did this correctly. They followed the descriptions of the books of people from different regions. Having black men north of the Wall or pale men in Dorne or the Summer Isles just would not make sense.

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They did...but it was purely by accident. They started that project in 2011 and casting before that. That's well before the idea that you needed to slap a BIPOC into a role for "equity" reasons whether it made sense or not. I'd bet both nuts and an arm that if GOT was being made today there would TONS of castings like what we're seeing in this LOTR show. GOT simply got made too early to be ruined by this new fad. It got ruined by two shitty show runners in the end, but not by this.

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I have to wonder if they are anticipating requirements for television awards similar to what the Oscars has done.

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No, they are adhering to their own Diversity, Equity and Inclusion playbook. All the studios have one just like it. There is just no possible way to create solid content when so much effort goes into this kind of horse shite before the creative process ever gets started.

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“It’s the dwarves that go swimming with little hairy women…”

Put a beard on that dwarf.

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they are adhering to their own Diversity, Equity and Inclusion playbook

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We’re at a point where Hollywood can’t produce anything of value. Because ideology is everything. And everything they produce, must serve a political goal.

They’ve always been political, and often very anti-American. High Noon is a famous example of that. But it’s become who they are to the exclusion of anything else.

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Drinker nails it once again

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This guy sums up my position on this, WoT, and other woke rewrites of established stories and lore.

Bottom line is that Hollywood, Amazon, etc. are just fricking lazy and want to make a quick buck, so they have no issues destroying established franchises in the name of diversity. Of course it's waaaaaay to much to ask of them to make original content set in a fantasy setting with a diverse cast and world. That's hard. Much easier to just race/sex swap established intellectual property, call anyone who disagrees a racist or bigot, and collect the paycheck.

Sweet Jesus.

Me too, me too

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and just see if you can enjoy it as a fantasy show in general.

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With the look of the series I don’t think this will be possible at all either. It looks like those kid shows they produce like the wheel of time.

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Things like having black elves and dwarves wont bother me at all, but if they start booting up characters that have a definite story, not some of the stuff where they will have to fill in the gaps (if you want a continuous timeline with Silmarillion, you will have to come up with a good bit of filler material), then I'll be out in a hurry.

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Lets not kid ourselves. The minute they put a black elves and dwarves into it that was just the tip of the iceberg.

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I don’t even have the energy to complain or care anymore. These people have shite on everything that I grew up enjoying. Why should I think this would be any different.

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between most of the recent adaptations in the last year (Halo, LotR, and WoT) the only one the board generally likes is a two bit Marvel Character that most everybody had never heard of before 2021 and an airplane book series about a hulking detective.

what a world.