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re: Finally started Breaking Bad...a few questions. (spoilers)
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:46 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:46 am to Prominentwon
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It's a shame that Mike is on the other end of Walt. I really like that dude. I think he's more of a bad arse then Gus.
He's my favorite character.
Also, you may want to bail on the thread (spoiler-wise) until you're all caught up/finished.
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:32 am to RLDSC FAN
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I just finished the show this weekend...It's a solid show, but I didn't feel like it's the GOAT as so many have said, not even close. I found myself quite bored with several episodes.
i just finished this weekend too. there were times i was put off by it too. all around it was an excellent show but i kept thinking during the first 3 seasons that surely it has to get better if all these people think it's so good. it did get better but i wonder if i wouldn't have enjoyed it more had i paced myself towards the end. i watched the last 16 episodes in a day and a half.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:39 pm to CocomoLSU
Weellllllll.........!?!!???
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:50 pm to WG_Dawg
Just watched the two penultimate episodes. Good shite. Ozymandias was fantastic TV. I think my favorite thing about it was Walt's phone call with Skyler where he just went all lunatic on her. I know he did it to try to protect her but it was still awesome because for the most part, he was being serious. IMO it was sort of his way to vent and get his frustrations out on her (for not listening) while making her look less guilty. So while he was protecting her, I think he meant every word of it. I'm not sure there has ever been a "protagonist who is also the antagonist" this good on TV.
Penultimate episode (Granite Slate) was good too, even if slow and anticlimactic. Sets up what I hope to be one hell of a finale. So many things to wrap up:
Jesse Pinkman
Uncle Jack and crew
WW's family (including Marie)
WW himself
Lydia
Grey Matter (weird they'd throw that in this late IMO)
Saul (long shot since he is gone, but I am hopeful)
The ricin (assuming Lydia...maybe Jesse)
Hank (really would suck if they never knew where his body was)
And prolly several other things I'm forgetting.
Great television. Them shooting Andrea was fricking cold blooded and awesome at the same time. Ironic that Jesse calls everyone "bitch" when that's exactly what life's ultimately made him.
I am hoping to not be disappointed in this finale, but I expect good things. We shall see. I've also been semi-reading along with the episode threads to see people's thoughts as y'all watched the last few episodes. Mainly to see how y'all were reacting when people were getting capped in the head.
And feel free to post any and all spoilers about my thoughts/the show/the finale...I won't be back to this thread until I'm done watching it. And I may post my thoughts as I progress through, just to have them here. I'll hit submit when it's done.
And thanks for the discussions. This has been a great ride.
Penultimate episode (Granite Slate) was good too, even if slow and anticlimactic. Sets up what I hope to be one hell of a finale. So many things to wrap up:
Jesse Pinkman
Uncle Jack and crew
WW's family (including Marie)
WW himself
Lydia
Grey Matter (weird they'd throw that in this late IMO)
Saul (long shot since he is gone, but I am hopeful)
The ricin (assuming Lydia...maybe Jesse)
Hank (really would suck if they never knew where his body was)
And prolly several other things I'm forgetting.
Great television. Them shooting Andrea was fricking cold blooded and awesome at the same time. Ironic that Jesse calls everyone "bitch" when that's exactly what life's ultimately made him.
I am hoping to not be disappointed in this finale, but I expect good things. We shall see. I've also been semi-reading along with the episode threads to see people's thoughts as y'all watched the last few episodes. Mainly to see how y'all were reacting when people were getting capped in the head.
And feel free to post any and all spoilers about my thoughts/the show/the finale...I won't be back to this thread until I'm done watching it. And I may post my thoughts as I progress through, just to have them here. I'll hit submit when it's done.
And thanks for the discussions. This has been a great ride.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 12/10/13 at 10:02 pm to CocomoLSU
Time to "open" discussion you say?
This post was edited on 12/10/13 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 12/10/13 at 10:52 pm to CocomoLSU
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Jesse Pinkman
Uncle Jack and crew
WW's family (including Marie)
WW himself
Lydia
Grey Matter (weird they'd throw that in this late IMO)
Saul (long shot since he is gone, but I am hopeful)
The ricin (assuming Lydia...maybe Jesse)
Hank (really would suck if they never knew where his body was)
And prolly several other things I'm forgetting.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 11:07 pm to CocomoLSU
I've never known a single person IRL that keeps their keys in the sun visor. Not one.
Love the Gray Matter angle to get WJr his money. Brilliant move by Walt. Even more awesome with the hit men, though I expect that to be bullshite.
Laser pointers. Called that obviousness. Badger and Skinny Pete = BOOOOO.
Todd hitting on Lydia is hilarious. And Walt finding them at the same place and time as she always did is awesome. Stupid bitch. And obviously the ricin is in her sugar crap, since it's the same table as always.
Skyler moved into a new place with stairs. Um, did they cure cerebral palsy since the last episode?
This show makes me want to use my house phone and answering machine more.
Marie saying there's no way Walt can get to them, except last episode (maybe two?) the white supremacists got into the house with the cops/DEA guarding it.
And Walt is already in there...awesome. Hahaa.
Lottery ticket?.............Boom. Yup. Solid move, Walt.
Awesome camera work. Walt standing in the kitchen with Skyler with the column separating them is great symbolism.
Walt finally admitting that he did it all for himself because it made him feel alive, and he liked it and was good at it.
Bryan Cranston is a retarded good actor (but not RJ Mitte, go figure).
Watching this show marathon style makes you notice how much of the acting consists of them just bawling their eyes out.
That whole scene with Walt visiting Sky, seeing Holly, and watching WJr was pretty sad, and touching in a way.
Parking job is significant.
For some reason I'm thinking he's gonna save Jesse. We shall see...
Aaaaaand there's the gun in the trunk. Aaaaaand there's him saving Jesse.
Shooting uncle jack like a fricking boss. And Jesse won't shoot Walt...but at least he finally sort of one-upped him for a change, and got to leave sort of on his own terms (walking out on Walt when he truly wanted Jesse to kill him and end everything).
Walt about to cook one last time? Would be awesome if he did and the show ended with a test of 100% pure and then end credits.
So what was the general consensus on the finale? I imagine people were pretty happy/satisfied with it.
IMO it was a very solid end to a ridiculously good show. I am definitely satisfied with the end. You knew there couldn't be a happy ending for Walt, at least not in terms of normal...but in the end, he got to set his family up for life, save/release Jesse (who he loved like a son...well, most of the time anyway), got to say goodbye to his wife and daughter (and son from a distance), gave Marie and the DEA some closure with Hank/Gomez (and also not only told Skyler that he didn't kill them, but helped her out with getting a reduced sentence with the coordinates), got a last "frick you" to Gray Matter, made sure that bitch Lydia got got, got slaughtery payback on the rednecks, and got one last walk down memory lane in the lab admiring not only his work/greatness as the best meth cook the world has seen, but also appreciative of the one thing he's always loved more than everything else...chemistry.
I'll have to let it sink in for a while before I can rank it, but my kneejerk reaction is that it's prolly top five all time. I know it gets compared to The Wire a lot, and I'd have it behind The Wire, but not by much. I will say that it's pretty amazing that this show has the complete look and feel of an HBO show. That's high praise.
The ride I've been on the last 11 days or so has been an incredible one. So glad I finally caught up on this shite. Badass show.
Love the Gray Matter angle to get WJr his money. Brilliant move by Walt. Even more awesome with the hit men, though I expect that to be bullshite.
Laser pointers. Called that obviousness. Badger and Skinny Pete = BOOOOO.
Todd hitting on Lydia is hilarious. And Walt finding them at the same place and time as she always did is awesome. Stupid bitch. And obviously the ricin is in her sugar crap, since it's the same table as always.
Skyler moved into a new place with stairs. Um, did they cure cerebral palsy since the last episode?
This show makes me want to use my house phone and answering machine more.
Marie saying there's no way Walt can get to them, except last episode (maybe two?) the white supremacists got into the house with the cops/DEA guarding it.
And Walt is already in there...awesome. Hahaa.
Lottery ticket?.............Boom. Yup. Solid move, Walt.
Awesome camera work. Walt standing in the kitchen with Skyler with the column separating them is great symbolism.
Walt finally admitting that he did it all for himself because it made him feel alive, and he liked it and was good at it.
Bryan Cranston is a retarded good actor (but not RJ Mitte, go figure). Watching this show marathon style makes you notice how much of the acting consists of them just bawling their eyes out.
That whole scene with Walt visiting Sky, seeing Holly, and watching WJr was pretty sad, and touching in a way.
Parking job is significant.
For some reason I'm thinking he's gonna save Jesse. We shall see...
Aaaaaand there's the gun in the trunk. Aaaaaand there's him saving Jesse.
Shooting uncle jack like a fricking boss. And Jesse won't shoot Walt...but at least he finally sort of one-upped him for a change, and got to leave sort of on his own terms (walking out on Walt when he truly wanted Jesse to kill him and end everything).
Walt about to cook one last time?
Would be awesome if he did and the show ended with a test of 100% pure and then end credits. So what was the general consensus on the finale? I imagine people were pretty happy/satisfied with it.
IMO it was a very solid end to a ridiculously good show. I am definitely satisfied with the end. You knew there couldn't be a happy ending for Walt, at least not in terms of normal...but in the end, he got to set his family up for life, save/release Jesse (who he loved like a son...well, most of the time anyway), got to say goodbye to his wife and daughter (and son from a distance), gave Marie and the DEA some closure with Hank/Gomez (and also not only told Skyler that he didn't kill them, but helped her out with getting a reduced sentence with the coordinates), got a last "frick you" to Gray Matter, made sure that bitch Lydia got got, got slaughtery payback on the rednecks, and got one last walk down memory lane in the lab admiring not only his work/greatness as the best meth cook the world has seen, but also appreciative of the one thing he's always loved more than everything else...chemistry.
I'll have to let it sink in for a while before I can rank it, but my kneejerk reaction is that it's prolly top five all time. I know it gets compared to The Wire a lot, and I'd have it behind The Wire, but not by much. I will say that it's pretty amazing that this show has the complete look and feel of an HBO show. That's high praise.
The ride I've been on the last 11 days or so has been an incredible one. So glad I finally caught up on this shite. Badass show.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/10/13 at 11:11 pm to CocomoLSU
I'm glad you finally finished and your stream of consciousness post is hilarious.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 11:15 pm to CocomoLSU
I did the same thing you did Cocomo binged Breaking Bad from beginning to end. It has to be the closest thing to actually doing meth I've ever experienced.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 11:18 pm to CocomoLSU
Posted on 12/10/13 at 11:28 pm to CocomoLSU
i read that putting ricin in a hot liquid would render it harmless.
my only gripe with the finale.
my only gripe with the finale.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 11:30 pm to piggilicious
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i watched the last 16 episodes in a day and a half.
That's craziness.
It got to where Breaking Bad was like a fine wine, you needed to take your time, aerate it, let each episode mature and imprint on your brain, breathe it in, hold it, relish it, savor the moments and the twists and turns.
Steamrolling through it all in 36 hours is like buttchugging an early 70's Domaine Leroy Chambertin Grand Cru.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:02 am to CtotheVrzrbck
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That's craziness.
It got to where Breaking Bad was like a fine wine, you needed to take your time, aerate it, let each episode mature and imprint on your brain, breathe it in, hold it, relish it, savor the moments and the twists and turns.
I woke up yesterday morning with three or four episodes left in season four. Watched those (I think) three and almost all of five (finished the last three tonight). I agree with you that some time to digest things may be beneficial, but it's so good IMO that waiting to watch the next one always seems excruciating. It's like I'm wanting that immediate next fix, just like methheads.
Certainly no regrets in watching the series in such a short time though. It was a hell of a ride.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:12 am to CocomoLSU
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I love that the timeline on this show isn't "real time." Just now in S5 he said that it was one year since his diagnosis. So it's cool when a show can tell its own story and not have to keep up with real time.
The show benefited hugely from the seasons being so spread out, because the actual timeline makes shite for sense.
It's a huge problem with the show for me.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:17 am to CrippleCreek
How does it not make sense? What I meant with my comment was that it was sort of in its own bottled universe. So even if the seasons were months and months apart, the show (more or less) picked right up where it left off the previous season.
It was basically a two-year-long movie/novel told over a span of five years in reality. The timeline always seemed to be fine for me on the show...I feel like there weren't many holes in time that I felt like were missing or that were bugging me.
It was basically a two-year-long movie/novel told over a span of five years in reality. The timeline always seemed to be fine for me on the show...I feel like there weren't many holes in time that I felt like were missing or that were bugging me.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:22 am to CocomoLSU
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It was basically a two-year-long movie/novel told over a span of five years in reality. The timeline always seemed to be fine for me on the show...I feel like there weren't many holes in time that I felt like were missing or that were bugging me.
It's not that there are holes in time, its that I personally find the amount of things that happen to over the course of especially that first year to be wildly unbelievable.
The break-neck speed with which the plot moves within that one year strikes me as ridiculous.
It's still a great show, and I think I'm the only person I know who has an issue with it.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:37 am to CocomoLSU
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I'll have to let it sink in for a while before I can rank it, but my kneejerk reaction is that it's prolly top five all time. I know it gets compared to The Wire a lot, and if have it behind The Wire, but not by much. I will say that it's pretty amazing that this show has the complete look and feel of an HBO show. That's high praise.
Amazing how the show grabs you and just gets better and better. I remember early on you thought we were all crazy for thinking it was as good as the best shows on TV ever. Now it seems like you're in agreement. It is definitely a slow burn until it becomes a conflagration at the end. Probably my favorite part about it.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 11:40 am to LoveThatMoney
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I remember early on you thought we were all crazy for thinking it was as good as the best shows on TV ever. Now it seems like you're in agreement.
I don't remember saying that at all...I had no doubts that I would like BB based on everything I had heard (and some of the people I heard it from). I just wanted to wait until it was over to watch the series...I had no desire to catch up and then have to wait each week to finish it up.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:04 pm to rondo
Going back and seeing some things in this thread:
What are you trying to say by that? I'm by no means being basic with my thoughts about Skyler. I don't like her character at all. I don't like how she plays both sides of the fence all the time...one minute she's crafting some outrageous lie to protect the family, and the next she's trying to be moral...one minute she's wanting Walt to kill someone and the next minute she's hating him for actually killing someone else. One minute she's giving away Walt's money to her former lover, and the next she's mad at Walt for continuing to cook because he needs to replace the money that she gave away.
Sure, it was Walt's fault that she was involved in the first place, but he always tried to keep his family separate from his business, and she got herself more and more involved, even to the point of being greedy at times.
And let's not forget that Walt granted her what she wanted...she wanted out and he signed the divorce papers, and then she didn't file them. He gave her the chance to separate from him and keep her kids safer, and she chose not to.
So, explain to me if/why you like Skyler...or were you just being an a-hole?
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- Skyler sucks. I keep trying to put myself in her shoes in having to deal with basically losing a husband to cancer, and then losing him to something else almost entirely
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basic thought from a basic man.
What are you trying to say by that? I'm by no means being basic with my thoughts about Skyler. I don't like her character at all. I don't like how she plays both sides of the fence all the time...one minute she's crafting some outrageous lie to protect the family, and the next she's trying to be moral...one minute she's wanting Walt to kill someone and the next minute she's hating him for actually killing someone else. One minute she's giving away Walt's money to her former lover, and the next she's mad at Walt for continuing to cook because he needs to replace the money that she gave away.
Sure, it was Walt's fault that she was involved in the first place, but he always tried to keep his family separate from his business, and she got herself more and more involved, even to the point of being greedy at times.
And let's not forget that Walt granted her what she wanted...she wanted out and he signed the divorce papers, and then she didn't file them. He gave her the chance to separate from him and keep her kids safer, and she chose not to.
So, explain to me if/why you like Skyler...or were you just being an a-hole?
Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:06 pm to Libertyabides71
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know they were annoying but are we to consider Skylar/Marie hot in a cougary sort of way?
I think Marie is fairly hot. Skyler, I was never sure about her...overall I guess she's relatively attractive for an older woman.
Also, was Anna Gunn pregnant IRL for one of teh seasons? Seems like around season 4 or so she had put on some weight and they were trying to hide it.
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