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Enron Documentary

Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Simplemaaan
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:04 pm
Anyone know the name of the Netflix documentary on Enron?
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:05 pm to
Smartest Guys in the Room?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:09 pm to
The sequel is much better















FTX
Posted by Simplemaaan
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:19 pm to
Thanks
Posted by Duzz
Houston
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:59 pm to
I would rather watch the FTX Documentary.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:30 am to
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I would rather watch the FTX Documentary.



There will most likely be multiple major documentaries made about FTX within the next two years.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:40 am to
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There will most likely be multiple major documentaries made about FTX within the next two years.


And they will all be mediocre and try to be clever more than accurate while coming off like they were made by 2nd year film students.

I enjoyed eat the rich, the last blockbuster, wefailed, etc. purely as entertainment, but most of them are pretty hokey and I don’t really take them seriously.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:50 am to
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Smartest Guys in the Room?


As a financial guy, this doc is outstanding. It came out just as I was getting started in my career and I remember being fascinated by this story. I've probably watched it 4-5 times.

Not sure if it is on Netflix
Posted by griddle
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 8:54 am to
It's on Amazon Prime

Smartest Guys in the Room
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:27 am to
Great doc. Years ago when I was getting my MBA, we covered and watched this in Corporate Governance. The Enron thing pretty much brought about what Corporate Governance is today.

Lou Pai was my favorite. That dude made out like a bandit while everyone else either died or went to jail.
Posted by Sidicous
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 10:52 am to
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The sequel is much better















FTX
You mean CFS (Commercial Financial Services) and Bill Bartmann. Dwarfed the Enron amount in their BK after buying most of the late 80's S&L Crisis debt from the closed S&L's and using those portfolio's as the 1st example of what is now standard practice and causing our money printers to go brrrr. (see: Securitization of debt by using existing debt as collateral against new debt. This is what the Fed Reserve is doing now, selling new debt using the current/old debt as collateral on the new. Rolling, rollin, rollin, keep them debtors rollin, RAWHIDE!) Only thing that stopped Bartmann and his former Fed Bank Examiner CFO Gertrude Brady was getting wind of portfolio manipulations that when S&P got hard proof forced them to completely remove their bond ratings from CFS shutting down their source of revenue: sale of bonds.

FTX is a sequel to a sequel.


ETA: At a point in the mid to late 90's Bartmann was only behind Bill Gates as richest man, was ahead of all the rest including Musk, Bezos, cartel bosses, SA princes, etc.. But nobody has ever heard of him. He was such scum he had the Las Vegas Newspaper front page framed on his office wall showing him canoodling with high ranking politicians and Navy Admirals as the Tailhook Scandal broke. He was totally proud of his crooked connections and boasted of them!
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 10:57 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 11:00 am to
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And they will all be mediocre and try to be clever more than accurate while coming off like they were made by 2nd year film students. I enjoyed eat the rich, the last blockbuster, wefailed, etc. purely as entertainment, but most of them are pretty hokey and I don’t really take them seriously.


I think part of that is how early we want to editorialize these things. Some guy is writing a doc outline about this right now and will drop a half assed Netflix doc on it when we haven’t even begun to get to the whole story or how it plays out

Although I will note for FTX specifically, apparently Micheal Lewis has been traveling along side the FTX owner for the last 6 months so I have high hopes for the resulting book and likely adaptation- but I would guess Lewis won’t rush out that book because he’s good at what he does
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 11:01 am to
Yeah what luck by Lewis
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
1780 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 11:44 am to
I knew a ton of people who worked at Enron at some point in their career. Know the lady who blew the whistle on them.

My MBA accounting prof called the collapse way before it happened. He ended up testifying multiple times to Congress.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28878 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:42 pm to
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I think part of that is how early we want to editorialize these things. Some guy is writing a doc outline about this right now and will drop a half assed Netflix doc on it when we haven’t even begun to get to the whole story or how it plays out


You put that more succinctly than I did. But yes. fyrefest, woodstock, wework, GameStop, etc. all had some very heavy editorializing that went on.

Woodstock at least had 20 years to have the whole story come out, but then they tried to attach 2022 sensitivities and labels to an event that happened almost 25 years ago.

Eat the rich was entertaining but then they brought in Taylor Lorenz who is a known and complete hack of a journalist who probably will end up in obscurity in a few years outside of her own blog. I was asking myself why she was even involved with this story.

The story could be interesting but I feel like the investigation and fallout needs to play out first.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5004 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:46 pm to
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My MBA accounting prof called the collapse way before it happened. He ended up testifying multiple times to Congress.

Humble l got my MBA from an accredited school brag.
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