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re: Emily Wilson claims Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey is too woke...
Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:49 pm to sgallo3
Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:49 pm to sgallo3
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It really is funny seeing how easily duped boomers are by headlines
I don't think Kaiju is a boomer. I think he's just a retarded kid, likely 18-20 years old, that is easily manipulated by grifter algorithm nonsense and doesn't have the wisdom that comes with age to simply relax and examine things yourself with an open mind.
At least I hope he is not older than like 23
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:50 pm to Richleau
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Yes he does, they are not physically depicted at all.
Uh what
One very specifically and prominently is.
Two others are prominently and repeatedly mentioned, with their "effects" being felt by the men quite tangibly
Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:52 pm to Fun Bunch
no, she's a vision. and yes, in part, but in the story, they are physically depicted, speak, etc.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:54 pm to Richleau
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no, she's a vision.
Is she? That is certainly not clear
Its part of the film that I find one of the more striking, interesting, and debate worthy parts of it...
...and overt god appearances would not have worked in this version of the story at all, imo. It wasn't about the gods.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:57 pm to Fun Bunch
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So, perhaps just post the direct quote from her here.
waiting for this quote from Emily Wilson saying Nolan's version was "more feminist than mine"
Posted on 7/23/26 at 2:01 pm to Fun Bunch
That's my point from the beginning. Why does modernity mean taking out the physical nature of the Gods?
Posted on 7/23/26 at 2:02 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
The more I think about it and the more other people I know bring up and ask questions about different things the worse it gets. That movie is horrible and it will be seen as awful in the near future. It’s so lazily made story wise, like he didn’t give two shits and knew all he needed were some IMAX shots, casting and messaging to get what he wanted.
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 7/23/26 at 2:13 pm to Richleau
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What I don’t understand, his point mainly, of if you’re making it “modern” why take out the gods? Does modernity mean no religion?
Also makes no sense. The entire story is around his invention of Zeus’ law while telling us the gods aren’t real and peoples belief in them is the cause of all our loss and suffering. It’s retarded but frick you, Nolan, IMAX get fricked.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 2:16 pm to Fun Bunch
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“out feminized the feminist"
I said that, you autistic retard! Good grief. But the point is and it is widely reported that she has issues with how his movie treated her translation.
Why don't YOU read the article? Feels like you didn't. You just saw the clip.
Emily Wilson, whose 2017 English translation of Homer's The Odyssey was widely reported to have influenced Nolan's adaptation, offered a pointed critique of the blockbuster during a recent discussion of the film. Rather than praising Nolan's interpretation, Wilson argued that the director fundamentally changes Odysseus by replacing the Homeric pursuit of glory with a modern psychological struggle centered on shame.
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 7/23/26 at 2:18 pm to Fun Bunch
Gee, I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe you guys are just so simple that you don’t understand the larger points of discussion.
But if you like the sparkly keychain dangling in front of your eyes, good for you!
But if you like the sparkly keychain dangling in front of your eyes, good for you!
Posted on 7/23/26 at 2:25 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Maybe you guys are just so simple that you don’t understand the larger points of discussion
Starting to think this is the issue. These people are just too stupid to understand any of this. Btw Metacritic has it at 5.2 out of 10.
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/23/26 at 2:40 pm to Salmon
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If I'm on the fence, as I was with this movie, I'll wait for some reviews of people that I know and they all said positive things.
Why is that any different than waiting for reviews of people you know and they say it's a yawner?
People decide whether or not to watch a movie all the time just based on trailers and partial information. Outside of the few people who just see everything that comes out, that's how most normal people reach a decision about a movie.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:13 pm to Flats
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Why is that any different than waiting for reviews of people you know and they say it's a yawner?
It’s not
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:17 pm to Flats
5.2 on metacritic. This is just an average movie like I said.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:26 pm to Little Wooden Box
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5.2 on metacritic. This is just an average movie like I said.
Ahh yes.
Where ShadowFang21 can give a 0 with and write such useful reviews as this
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Absolutely **** movie with **** cast I will never ever watch this pile of woke ***
Literally said they will never watch it
Or Moviesage with a 0 with this
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I'm a long-time Nolan super fan and have watched and studied his work extensively. I really gave this one a chance but the fact of the matter and my ultimate conclusion is that this movie represents the literal downfall Western society. It's purely obscene in every possible sense. It's an insult to Greek culture and to all of humanity. The dialogue, the disgusting casting, the music, the pacing and the overall pretentiousness. I just can't believe how Nolan put this pile of filth out for public display. The Odyssey is simply an abomination.
An abomination
The literal downfall of Western Society? Speaking of pretentiousness LemmeC’s 0
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Why? More blackwashing of our culture. Keep your hands of my ancestors' history Nolan.
These are just within the last few of the reviews
LINK
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:27 pm to Little Wooden Box
quote:Go read some of the 0/10 user reviews. Reviewers literally stating they will never, ever watch this movie, yet leaving a 0/10 score. I wish there was a term for this. Hmmm.
5.2 on metacritic. This is just an average movie like I said.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:36 pm to Adam Banks
Yeah, I don't think vetting is a thing there.
vagman's 10:
I think its the bestfilm ever **** my favourite,the one i had most fun or brought out the most emotions, but as a creation the best i ve seing.Especiallly the acting is superb.
vagman's 10:
I think its the bestfilm ever **** my favourite,the one i had most fun or brought out the most emotions, but as a creation the best i ve seing.Especiallly the acting is superb.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:46 pm to Flats
Hence its low score.
It the only place that can review bomb it so it has self selected that.
10 is excessive but a 0 is ridiculous
8.5 IMDB score is about right.
Rotten tomatoes when you understand the methodology it makes the 97 understandable. It’s not that it has a 9.7 out of 10. It’s vast majority of people who have watched the movie think it’s solid. This has correlated with my experience talking to others.
It the only place that can review bomb it so it has self selected that.
10 is excessive but a 0 is ridiculous
8.5 IMDB score is about right.
Rotten tomatoes when you understand the methodology it makes the 97 understandable. It’s not that it has a 9.7 out of 10. It’s vast majority of people who have watched the movie think it’s solid. This has correlated with my experience talking to others.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:49 pm to drizztiger
You should read the 10/10 reviews. None of them seen movie and it’s a masterpiece
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:51 pm to Little Wooden Box
quote:So you can stop referencing the 5.2 user metacritic as some type of proof that it’s simply an average movie, or will you continue to use that as a talking point with your next alter?
You should read the 10/10 reviews. None of them seen movie and it’s a masterpiece
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