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re: Does anyone really think Star Wars is better than The Lord of the Rings?

Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 2:48 pm to
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It's full of generic characters types,





Archetypal, not generic.
Yeah, my bad. You knew what I meant.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:04 pm to
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Star Wars came out in 1977 and the special effects and cinematography were ground breaking for that time. I agree that LOTR is a better story with better characters - it was written by a master and inspired by world changing events. If it had been put on screen in 1977 though it would've been a dud.

It completely depends on the approach, budget, and how serious a guy like Lucas would have been about it.

Willow was made in 1988, and the only "new" tech was shapeshifting the good witch from an animal into an old woman.

That was a very fun movie, and it was Lucas just fricking around with the genre just a bit, with a low budget (35 million).
Give him a big budget and the desire to make a complete, faithful interpretation, and I think he could have done it. Sure, Aragorn would have been more like Madmartigan, but that wouldn't necessarily have been a bad thing. You wouldn't have written the role that way... perhaps Boromir would have been the cocky dude.
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:23 pm to
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The stakes are also much higher in Lord of the Rings than Star Wars, although admittedly Darth Vader is a more terrifying villain than anyone in Lord of the Rings (at least until RotJ).



Is it? Because no matter what happens Gandolf is just going Fly some eagles in to save the day.


Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 3:36 pm to
LotR movies have ZERO rewatchability (that's not a word). They're too much of a chore.

That means something when rating movies.
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 4:09 pm to
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LotR movies have ZERO rewatchability

Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 4:17 pm to
LOTR is orders of magnitude better than Star Wars.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 4:28 pm to
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LotR movies have ZERO rewatchability (that's not a word). They're too much of a chore.

That means something when rating movies.

Somewhat, and it depends on which movies and why they're hard to rewatch.

LOTR- the actual original trilogy, length of film comes into play. You kinda need to watch all 3, and the extended versions are better. So it's like binging a full season or more of a show. You don't get a 2 hour experience that's satisfying, you need 10-12 hours.

The Hobbit- in addition to being long, it's annoying what they did. Like some others have said, you need a heavy edit back to the book tale. So with the time involved in finding that edit, you then get a 3 hr satisfying movie.

Star Wars OT- main issue for me is finding a good edit, meaning find the "despecialized" versions. Original Star Wars (Ep 4) is the only one necessary for that, so with a good edit, 2 hrs. Or up to 6, catching the full trilogy.

Prequels, that gets interesting. Ep 1, you get a lot of folks liking the edit removing all the goofy "cute" stuff, that people seem to think is nice. Ep 2 and 3, they're tolerable, but strongly enhanced by watching Clone Wars series.
So you're talking between a few hours to many, MANY hours, depending on whether you want to incorporate Ahsoka Tano etc into it. And given the ending of that series, I'd say "yes, you should watch that series".

Sequel trilogy- meh. Ep 7 got me excited the way Ep 1 did, "we have new Star Wars!". I soured on it after awhile... and it was the best of the trilogy. Things went downhill from there.
I might have rewatched Ep 7 once, haven't rewatched the other 2 yet, and I have Disney+ so I could have at any time.

I do still occasionally rewatch LOTR, and I tried to start The Hobbit, but tapped out less than an hour in.
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