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re: Disneys Snow White trailer suffering absolutely ridiculous ratio
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:12 am to td01241
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:12 am to td01241
Also I’d suggest if you don’t want mass audiences to associate “diverse” casting with woke don’t openly brag and act morally superior about your quotas on every movie.
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:18 am to td01241
I didnt watch the Peter Pan movie, what where the major changes there?
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:24 am to td01241
The trailer looked fine to me. 
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:27 am to td01241
The only way to save it is to throw it in the multiverse and bring in Deadpool and Wolverine to kill the queen.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:29 am to abellsujr
I saw a joke earlier from my friend in a group text
Snow White: I don’t need no man
Prince Charming: That’s cool I’m here for your step mom anyway
Snow White: I don’t need no man
Prince Charming: That’s cool I’m here for your step mom anyway
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:30 am to td01241
Well I've never gloated about diversity, but I'm assuming you are more referring to the far left that need to virtue signal to everyone how good of a person they are because they have a BLM flag hanging in their class even though they would never teach in an underprivileged black school.
And you brought up Deadpool again. As we previously discussed, that movie had all the bullet points that other movies get trashed for, yet it is beloved. Obviously it gets a pass because it is a good movie and these others are not. But why is one movie featuring a gay kiss an automatic no for some people but they will gloss over the lesbian couple in Deadpool? Double standards or lazy engagement.
And you brought up Deadpool again. As we previously discussed, that movie had all the bullet points that other movies get trashed for, yet it is beloved. Obviously it gets a pass because it is a good movie and these others are not. But why is one movie featuring a gay kiss an automatic no for some people but they will gloss over the lesbian couple in Deadpool? Double standards or lazy engagement.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:33 am to ThoseGuys
What movie that’s not a children movie and isn’t a gay sex rom com like bros have people rejected outright in a pg-13 or R rated movie just because gay people kiss? One rule: you can’t use any movie that has a marketing campaign consisting of only talking about how gay it is. Dudes aren’t trying to take their ladies to a movie all about gay shite. Sorry that’s just the way it is. A gay kiss in a serious movie that’s cinema? Sure they will show. Those are very rare
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:04 am to td01241
I'll take a look so I can find actual examples rather than generalizations. Because obviously they have the whole "put a chick in it and make her gay" has became a meme because it's such a common complaint about modern movies, but I will see if I can find specific movies/TV shows.
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Unrelated to this thread, but man there is a lot of really good movies featuring LGBT themes out there; Fried Green Tomatoes, To Wong Fo Thanks for Everything, Philadelphia, the Birdcage, Everything Everywhere All at Once, and a few others. I have a few I want to look up and see what reviews have to say about though. I'm also interested to see what people said about the above movies because I always remembered them being universally beloved.
EDIT
Unrelated to this thread, but man there is a lot of really good movies featuring LGBT themes out there; Fried Green Tomatoes, To Wong Fo Thanks for Everything, Philadelphia, the Birdcage, Everything Everywhere All at Once, and a few others. I have a few I want to look up and see what reviews have to say about though. I'm also interested to see what people said about the above movies because I always remembered them being universally beloved.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 11:14 am
Posted on 8/16/24 at 12:24 pm to dawgfan24348
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What message?
That the 1937 classic "reinforced stereotypes/traditional gender roles" and was ate up with "misogyny".
Are you aware of any public statements by the little idiot they have in the lead? She didn't make that up. That is shite she was told/overhead by the filmmakers.
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I agree with what?
"The message."
Posted on 8/16/24 at 12:32 pm to ThoseGuys
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People now associate any minority in a movie as being woke.
So, the lead character in this film is Snow White and she has a relatively specific description.
I get that Cinderella, despite expectations of her being a blonde, blue eyed cracker, you could lean into the "brown" ("Cinder") aspect and race swap that one, if you chose, and it likely wouldn't raise an eyebrow (or it wouldn't have before Hollywood went #Allwokeallthetime) - if it wasn't pretentious or went out of its way to hit the audience over the head with "stunning and brave."
Back to Snow White - casting her with an actress that will struggle to meet that expectation (look up "snow" and "white" in the dictionary if you're having trouble with my words) must have been done intentionally.
I'll be the first to admit that they could cast a white dude to replace Chadwick Bozeman as Black Panther. That could be done. If the best actor for the role happens to be a white dude, that should be done. But, expect some backlash. And if the cracker goes out and insults half the audience, shits on the original film, expect some major backlash.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/16/24 at 12:57 pm to QJenk
I honestly think people are more mad that Rachel Zegler was cast than anything else, in part because of some of the ridiculous comments she’s made in the last couple years.
Being mad that the dwarves are doing some of the work feels like people looking to be upset about something.
I honestly think that Disney was excited getting some up and coming star, who has an amazing voice to reprise a classic role and weren’t so concerned about that person not being white (I could be wrong here). We’ll see how it ends up working out, but no one here is actually the target demographic so it’s hard for me to be 100% certain it’s going to flop.
Being mad that the dwarves are doing some of the work feels like people looking to be upset about something.
I honestly think that Disney was excited getting some up and coming star, who has an amazing voice to reprise a classic role and weren’t so concerned about that person not being white (I could be wrong here). We’ll see how it ends up working out, but no one here is actually the target demographic so it’s hard for me to be 100% certain it’s going to flop.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 1:06 pm to Ace Midnight
What in the world are you smoking?
Snow White is just a story about vanity and narcissistic personality.
You could have had Lex Luger back in his WWF days feuding with HBK and having the dude talk into his mirror he use to bring to the ring to pose in and the shite would be a take on Snow White.
The main plot point of Snow White ain't got shite to do with what color or gender the "Snow White" character is. That's focusing on the wrong point of the story.
Also @td01241
How would we rate Moonlight? Because there is more negative feedback on social platforms and the bulk of it focuses on 3 points; stole the Oscar (I agree with this), all black characters, and gay main character. Hardly any of the negative comments actually talk about the movie itself, merely things outside the movie. Or does that not count because it has other factors at play and the left has inflated the reviews with hallow applause.
Also also, Power of the Dog from what I can see got a lot of shite for having gay themes in it. I can't find the thread on it from here, but yeah I remember that one got pretty bad too. I've never seen the movie itself, so I can't provide any feedback.
Snow White is just a story about vanity and narcissistic personality.
You could have had Lex Luger back in his WWF days feuding with HBK and having the dude talk into his mirror he use to bring to the ring to pose in and the shite would be a take on Snow White.
The main plot point of Snow White ain't got shite to do with what color or gender the "Snow White" character is. That's focusing on the wrong point of the story.
Also @td01241
How would we rate Moonlight? Because there is more negative feedback on social platforms and the bulk of it focuses on 3 points; stole the Oscar (I agree with this), all black characters, and gay main character. Hardly any of the negative comments actually talk about the movie itself, merely things outside the movie. Or does that not count because it has other factors at play and the left has inflated the reviews with hallow applause.
Also also, Power of the Dog from what I can see got a lot of shite for having gay themes in it. I can't find the thread on it from here, but yeah I remember that one got pretty bad too. I've never seen the movie itself, so I can't provide any feedback.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:20 pm to ThoseGuys
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The main plot point of Snow White ain't got shite to do with what color or gender the "Snow White" character is. That's focusing on the wrong point of the story.
But they're definitely still calling the film Snow White, right?
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You could have had Lex Luger back in his WWF days feuding with HBK and having the dude talk into his mirror he use to bring to the ring to pose in and the shite would be a take on Snow White.
Do a take on it. But don't try to remake it, call it Snow White if you aren't going to have a lead actress consistent with the description of "Snow White" and some actual fricking dwarves in it.
You know that there weren't dwarf actors hired because a dwarf actor said that would be not progressive right? That is literally the reason.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:31 pm to td01241
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the normal people
Uhhh…. While I agree a lot of woke stuff is ridiculous, the other side that doesn’t believe women, minorities, or LGBTQ people can be in anything without it being “woke” are far from normal. Normal people just want to watch a good movie and don’t care if there is a message or some marginalized group is featured prominently.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:27 pm to Ace Midnight
But to be fair, the guy who said it is the king of the dwarfs.
You seem like the type of guy where if they did cast a white person to be Black Panther, you would be hyper focused on race rather than any story-telling implications the decision will entail. I mean hell the Black Panther wears a mask. Imagine if for the whole movie they are in mask and at the very end they remove the mask to show it was a white person. How would the characters react? What would the person in the suit feel about the situation? What would be crap is if they made this change and then don't show how it makes the story different and pretend everything is normal.
You seem like the type of guy where if they did cast a white person to be Black Panther, you would be hyper focused on race rather than any story-telling implications the decision will entail. I mean hell the Black Panther wears a mask. Imagine if for the whole movie they are in mask and at the very end they remove the mask to show it was a white person. How would the characters react? What would the person in the suit feel about the situation? What would be crap is if they made this change and then don't show how it makes the story different and pretend everything is normal.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:40 pm to ThoseGuys
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Midget Death Squad posted on the Thunderbolts trailer thread how the main character was a DEI actress no one cares about. The problem? Winter Soldier seems to be framed as the main character. He saw minority characters and immediately jumped to conclusions.
Yeah that movie literally stars white men and white women up and down the cast, but he saw one biracial woman playing a supporting character (Ghost) and went stupid.
I don’t mind having a cast of characters in action/adventure movies and series that are of different races. What I do mind is when you do stupid gender/race swaps and also make their race a part of the story for no reason.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:45 pm to Dairy Sanders
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What I do mind is when you do stupid gender/race swaps and also make their race a part of the story for no reason.
See I'm the opposite. Like they race swapped Ariel from Little Mermaid and I believe (I may be wrong, I don't have the best memory) they said the reason was because the movie was taking place in the Caribbean rather than near Denmark. Ok so that sounds like it could be interesting. Does that mean the Prince has to sail to the new world to get there? Why were they heading there? How does that change the story?
But if the movie glossed over it and was like "nah, everything the same, but now she's black cause reasons" than that is lame.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 5:14 pm to ThoseGuys
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if they did cast a white person to be Black Panther ... I mean hell the Black Panther wears a mask. Imagine if for the whole movie they are in mask and at the very end they remove the mask to show it was a white person. How would the characters react? What would the person in the suit feel about the situation? What would be crap is if they made this change and then don't show how it makes the story different and pretend everything is normal.
My point exactly. You got it and you nailed it.
Nice work!
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:21 am to Ace Midnight
quote:quote:
The main plot point of Snow White ain't got shite to do with what color or gender the "Snow White" character is. That's focusing on the wrong point of the story.
But they're definitely still calling the film Snow White, right?
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:44 am to Roaad
Anyone wanna take a guess or a stab at what the dislikes are at now? Can makes guesses on likes as well if anyone wants. I’ll give 20 minutes or so and reveal it
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 9:45 am
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