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re: Disney + coming November 12th, $6.99/month

Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:59 pm to
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DC Universe costs $7.99. as of November 12th, it will be overpriced vs the content provided

That buck a month to access all of their comics is really going to break you?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:01 pm to
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That buck a month to access all of their comics is really going to break you?


Not at all, but $7.99 for all of the content on their site suddenly looks kind of ridiculous compared to $6.99 for what Disney Plus says they will have.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:02 pm to
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So $46.97 and doesn't even count your basic cable or Dish or whatever. Starting to really add up and then you have internet too.


Pretty silly to have all of those accounts AND have basic cable/satellite. The former makes the latter redundant and is less than half the cost depending on how many you need (and you can always alternate sign ups for each account if you want to pay less a month)


This weird counter culture of hating the sprawling of streaming services really boggles my mind and just shows the poor simple math skills of a lot of people
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:06 pm to
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In the end, this a la carte viewing method everyone wanted will cost more than cable/dish, and you’ll get less.


Add another to the list.

If you signed up for EVERY streaming service at once, you may be paying more than a basic cable package, but you’d have so much more content (a lot of redundancy) and the beautiful thing is you can cancel any of them any time. And unless you have 13 kids, there’s no way you’d ever run out of shite to watch

Cable runs the same shite on replay for 80 percent of the day, runs 2 shows max at each network worth a shite, charges you more and locks you into a contract or controls what cable provider you can get based on location
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:08 pm to
Two or three services are feasible depending on your household.

I have multiple kids. Having Prime, Netflix, and Hulu means a variety of material in addition to not having to pay for extra screens because they can just watch something different if they hit the limit.

Five or six services is pushing it unless you are watching TV all the time or are ripping material via PlayOn.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:11 pm to
The catch is get people hooked then raise prices. That seems to be the cut the cord model.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:17 pm to
Yeah between those 4 you have shows from the big 4, all of netflix’s Original content, hbo for their original programming and movies, and disney’s content. Pretty sure PlayStation VUE has a good sports package around $20 so that gets you like 80% of content worth a damn for $70 a month.

What would you be missing? USA/TNT/TBS/AMC? Yeah like I said, you aren’t missing much. Even then, I’m sure you could find some legal way to get their programming and you’re still under $100 a month.

All of that content through cable would run you at least $150 a month and you wouldn’t have access to any of their OC nor their catalogues.

But hey if you want to spend $150 a month to get QVC and Headline News with no access to superior OC, that option is still on the table for you.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33651 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:17 pm to
I add and drop services throughout the year. Amazon and Netflix year around. YouTube tv during football and March madness. HBO during game of thrones and west world. CBS all access to binge watch Star Trek discovery once all the episodes are available. Will probably use Disney plus a few months, watch everything on it and come back when the library is restocked.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:18 pm to
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Not at all, but $7.99 for all of the content on their site suddenly looks kind of ridiculous compared to $6.99 for what Disney Plus says they will have.

The $6.99 is a price buster number aimed at Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu. DC Universe is for a niche market. You’re still going to have smaller services priced for specific audiences. DC is an addition service. No one is going to use that as their main service.

Disney doesn’t give a shite about the DC Universes and the CBS All Accesses.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:20 pm to
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DC is an addition service. No one is going to use that as their main service.


Kind of like Disney plus?
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:25 pm to
As for their price point, Netflix currently has over 100 million subscribers worldwide.

Let’s say Disney plus has only 10 million static for their first full year. That’s $70 million a month for $840 million in its first year.

90% their content has already been produced (back catalog or brought in from their channels). Let’s assume that those 25 original shows cost them $500 million to produce. Let’s say it cost them $150 million to develop the product and put the infrastructure in place. That’s $650 mil in costs for the first year.

That’s nearly $200 million in profit year one. And that’s assuming their subscriber numbers stay at less than 10% of what Netflix is currently at.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:54 pm to
TheeRealCarolina, Assuming by putting content on Disney + they are not losing any revenue somewhere else. There is a good chance they are losing money from places like Netflix.

ETA: The linked article says they target profitability in 2024
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 9:02 pm
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:00 pm to




Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:02 pm to
They’ve been pulling content for the last couple of years from Netflix. Hell they are raking it in from Lost on Netflix. $400 million for like 2 years of it on Netflix.

They’ll glad bring it all in house and lose whatever little bit of money Netflix was throwing their way to be the exclusive home of their catalog. They’ll still put their content that isn’t rated for the Disney Plus service out there for ancillary revenue. Any shows that they now own that are MA or movies that were R-Rated will be leased out.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:04 pm to
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At launch, Disney+ will include 7,500 episodes, 25 original series, 400 library movie titles, and 100 recent theatrical films releases, according to Agnes Chu, senior vice president, Content, Disney+. That includes 30 seasons of “The Simpsons,” which Disney obtained rights to through the acquisition of 21st Century Fox.


shite... that right there is a game changer for watching The Simpsons. I fricking hate watching on the FX app b/c there is no way around the endless loop of the same 4 commercials.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:06 pm to
The linked article says they target profitability in 2024. The fox content is still being paid for with debt. So that ain’t free content.

So like I said they will lure people in with low prices then raise them.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 9:08 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:07 pm to
They’ll get there before then. Disney is extremely conservative when it comes to their revenue/profit expectations that they announce.

It’ll be profitable by the end of 2021 at the latest. If they get to 25 million subscribers by the end of 2020, they’ll be pulling in over $2 billion in revenue alone. Even if original content and maintenance/infrastructure for the streaming costs them $1 billion for 2021, that’s still $1 billion in profit.

Disney will get a bag.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:09 pm to
They will be profitable I have no doubt but it’ll be bc they raise prices.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10681 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:11 pm to
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There's got to be a catch. Has to be.

6.99/month with offline download capability?

This is Disney.

There's a catch.


The catch is that the $6.99 price is going to increase 2.5x within the next few years.

Coming in at such a low price allows you to undercut other streaming services and generate positive sentiment surrounding your new platform.

The monthly price will start to balloon out of control in a few years once Disney is sitting on 80+ million subscribers.

Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:12 pm to
Oh yeah they eventually will. Even at $10 a month it will still be a great deal. They’ll probably have some Black Friday deal once they do raise it where you get a full year for $100 or something.

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