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re: Chappelle's Show removed from HBOMAX per his request
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:11 pm to SUB
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:11 pm to SUB
I just bought this series on DVD. It’s inevitable at this point that it will not be added to any streaming service and likely is going to be removed from any remaining. Dave clearly wants to erase it.
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:35 pm to ProjectP2294
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I mean, he's getting his way because he's a huge name, but does he actually have a legitimate gripe
Normally they don’t give a shite, for example many artists unable to play some of their earlier music due to not having the rights to their own stuff. Taylor Swift comes to mind
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:39 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Yeah, he's made it perfectly clear that he thought people started to laugh at his skits for all the wrong reasons.
Whether that's just in his head or not, it's all subjective. But he started to basically take offense to his audience and therefore probably wants to bury that show.
Basically if you find some of his skits on Chappelle's Show funny, he probably thinks you're a racist.
I don't know why he suddenly got all weird about his comedy and the reaction by white audiences but somebody started whispering in his ear to quit the show and really never talk about it again.
This makes sense. It's unfortunate though. Comedy feels pretty dead these days.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:43 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Comedy feels pretty dead these days.
It's grown bigger than just comedy though. Freedom of expression is dying all over the place.
The range of things you are allowed to say and think is more narrow now that it's ever been and it's still shrinking. Go back and look at any popular movie or television show made over the last 20-30 years and ask yourself if it would be made today.
Corporate media and social media are defining a single socially acceptable dogma that is being enforced on everyone whether they like it or not.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Comedy feels pretty dead these days.
Not even close. A ton of hilarious comics right now.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:52 pm to DBG
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Not even close. A ton of hilarious comics right now.
There have always been a ton of comics. Check out my other thread on the last great comedy movie. There was hardly anything mentioned in the last decade. Good TV comedies are also rare now. Up and coming comics often have to tow the line of PC culture because they have too much to lose if they are cancelled.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:58 pm to SUB
I just think many of them aren’t going to traditional movie/tv route
It’s all about podcasts, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube now.
It’s all about podcasts, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube now.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:38 pm to SUB
Damn, I just started watching it.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:05 pm to tiggerthetooth
I always felt like he thought he was gonna make a little cable sketch show that only blacks and a small number of whites who "understood" black culture would watch. When it blew up and he thought white America had taken it over like his Racial Draft sketch he couldn't stand it. Even for $50 million
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:55 am to Corso
He ran off because he felt like doing Chappelle’s Show was him performing in a minstrel show. He was woke before woke was cool.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:18 am to SUB
He is just being a typical hollywood bitch
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:38 am to The Boat
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He ran off because he felt like doing Chappelle’s Show was him performing in a minstrel show. He was woke before woke was cool.
Is that really why he quit, or is that something he made up later? I have no idea, I just remember when he quit everyone was saying he went crazy or had a breakdown. This is the first I have heard about him not liking white people watching his show, but I could have missed it.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:20 am to ProjectP2294
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I mean, he's getting his way because he's a huge name,
Thems the rules.
All these companies want to have a continued relationship with him. Thats how it works.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:20 am to ProjectP2294
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I mean, he's getting his way because he's a huge name, but does he actually have a legitimate gripe?
No. Can anyone who wants to go back and change the rules because the rules changed after you signed off?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:29 am to ProjectP2294
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Did he sign away streaming rights when he signed the contract? I feel like the contract would have preceded streaming rights.
I mean, he's getting his way because he's a huge name, but does he actually have a legitimate gripe?
It did. I think because the contract pre-dated streaming that it brings up a reasonable argument of whether those contracts cover streaming rights.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 11:05 am to nes2010
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Is that really why he quit, or is that something he made up later?
This article about his interview with Letterman on Netflix sheds some light: LINK
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Early in the interview, Letterman broaches the subject of what precisely caused Chappelle to leave his show. They get to talking about how Chappelle was filming a certain sketch, and a crew member laughed at a beat that he thought wasn't really the point of the sketch. While there was racial humor in the sketch in question, the laughter seemed to stem from something not related to the satire. The crew member laughed at Chappelle rather than with him by the sound of it. As Chappelle puts it, "It just raised an interesting question to me, which I was already wrestling with in the first place."
He seems to have understood the immense power and respect the show gave him. At one point in the interview, Chappelle mentions that he was "bigger than [he] was comfortable with." Even if his intentions were good, the way it was coming across to audiences, including that one crew member, seemed to be getting lost in translation, and he rightfully wondered how he should proceed with his career. He goes on to qualify that the one incident wasn't the only reason he left the show, but it did play a part.
Letterman asks about the specific sketch in question and what it was about. Chappelle describes it as such: "The sketch wasn't that bad. It's actually funny. It was a pixie. It was me dressed in blackface who'd pop up anytime a person felt the pains of racism, which is a tough trick to pull off. It's not a bad sketch, but hearing the wrong laugh, while you're dressed that way, it makes you feel shame."
Posted on 1/13/21 at 3:26 pm to SUB
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“But is that right? I found out that these people were streaming my work and they never had to ask me or they never have to tell me. Perfectly legal ‘cause I signed the contract. But is that right? I didn’t think so either.”
Yes it's right. Having said that, props to him for being so successful he can essentially bail himself out of a "bad" contract he signed.
But yes it's right.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 3:28 pm to jlovel7
Dave is one of those comedians who has become waaaaay too self-important. They start to think they "have something to say". You do. Funny things. You're not marching across the bridge at Selma, Dave. You're appearing onstage at the Funny Bone in Trenton on a Tuesday night. Calm down.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:32 pm to SUB
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"The sketch wasn't that bad. It's actually funny. It was a pixie. It was me dressed in blackface who'd pop up anytime a person felt the pains of racism, which is a tough trick to pull off. It's not a bad sketch, but hearing the wrong laugh, while you're dressed that way, it makes you feel shame."
This seems like an overly sensitive reaction, especially for a comedian. If it bothered him that much, did he address it with the crew member?
A pixie in blackface isn't exactly high art, but he even admitted it was funny. Seems rather pretentious to get angry about someone laughing at the sketch the "wrong" way.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:59 pm to ProjectP2294
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I feel like the contract would have preceded streaming rights.
those contracts usually say something like "via all media known or unknown in [timeframe]"
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