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re: 'Captain Marvel' Tomatometer 79% - Box Office Watch - One fan has watched it 116 times
Posted on 3/5/19 at 1:17 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 3/5/19 at 1:17 pm to RLDSC FAN
Of course it's 89%...
When is the last "blockbuster" you ever saw rated below 50%?
All the reviews are shills or RT is paid to rate a review fresh generously...like 2 out 4 is fresh.
The blockbuster basically has to get a 0 out of 4 to get a stinking rating.
I don't even bother going there anymore...every huge blockbuster or comic book movie is always around 85-95% fresh.
It's only the Indies that apparently don't have a slush fund that get pissed on.
When is the last "blockbuster" you ever saw rated below 50%?
All the reviews are shills or RT is paid to rate a review fresh generously...like 2 out 4 is fresh.
The blockbuster basically has to get a 0 out of 4 to get a stinking rating.
I don't even bother going there anymore...every huge blockbuster or comic book movie is always around 85-95% fresh.
It's only the Indies that apparently don't have a slush fund that get pissed on.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 1:29 pm to Freauxzen
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90% of comic book characters are retconned a few times until a writer writes something iconic that NEEDS to stick.
Code for "Carol Danvers is a bad character that they can't sell to the comic buying crowd. So they keep throwing shite on the wall hoping they buy it this time."
Posted on 3/5/19 at 1:45 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Code for "Carol Danvers is a bad character that they can't sell to the comic buying crowd. So they keep throwing shite on the wall hoping they buy it this time."
Even the great Batman has TONS of retconning in his past, not limited to League of Assassins, his Kill Rule, Philip Wayne/Alfred, his founding of the Justice League, Joe Chill, etc.
And not all retcons are bad anyway, it's called many, many different writers over literal decades. it's often a part of the charm of comic books.
BTW, I don't know if you know, but comic book characters never age. Should probably point that out.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 3/5/19 at 1:47 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Score on metacritic is down to 66% by the critics(lol at RT numbers)
LOL at the lead being such a shite actor, that the cat in the movie is what people boast about, not her.
LOL at the lead being such a shite actor, that the cat in the movie is what people boast about, not her.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 1:50 pm to Freauxzen
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And not all retcons are bad anyway, it's called many, many different writers over literal decades. it's often a part of the charm of comic books.
So why do fans flip out when a movie tries to change it up? MOS, being the biggest example.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 1:55 pm to RLDSC FAN
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So why do fans flip out when a movie tries to change it up? MOS, being the biggest example.
Because again, there's a difference between adding something cool, like the League of Assassins or Binary powers, and crapping on the character like MoS. I know you don't agree, but MoS was not a retcon, that was a reimagining and abandoning of the core character. And a lot less people care about a big change to Captain Marvel or Nightwing, than care about Superman.
Plus, fans want to see the things they imagined on the screen. When you retcon a comic book, you are talking about small changes, that will be seen, changed or reversed yearly, or monthly even, and slowly brought into importance. The fans get a new comic book next month.
But what they want to see on the screen is the Superman they know. They won't get another film for 3 years.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 3/5/19 at 1:58 pm to RLDSC FAN
It’ll get hammered by the left for not being feminist enough and hammered by the right for being too feminist.
I just hope it’s enjoyable. Not looking for life changing shite here
I just hope it’s enjoyable. Not looking for life changing shite here
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
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So why do fans flip out when a movie tries to change it up? MOS, being the biggest example.
And to add,
Marvel took A LOT of liberties with characters that no one said a peep about, it's HOW and what the changes are, and how they match the characters that are important.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:03 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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It's only the Indies that apparently don't have a slush fund that get pissed on.
A few Indies from last year and their RT rating:
The Favourite - 93%
First Reformed - 93%
Leave No Trace - 100%
You Were Never Really Here - 89%
Mandy - 91%
Private Life - 93%
Won't You Be My Neighbor - 98%
Sorry to Bother You - 93%
Eighth Grade - 99%
I mean, come on...
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:05 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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I mean, come on...
Yeah, Marvel has a legitimate formula to make movies that have a broad range of appeal. Having a high ranking film just because you think it's bad without seeing it, shouldn't be a shock.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:06 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Code for "Carol Danvers is a bad character that they can't sell to the comic buying crowd. So they keep throwing shite on the wall hoping they buy it this time."
How many people were out buying Guardians of the Galaxy comics before those movies came out?
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:14 pm to SeeeeK
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Score on metacritic is down to 66% by the critics(lol at RT numbers)
66% on Metacritic isn't a bad number.
For comparison purposes:
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:16 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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The fact she's been retconned 5 times in the last couple decades in print form and is still a poor seller tells you it's a shite character. No one wanted this movie.
Captain Marvel is literally the best-selling comic produced by Marvel. There's also the active and vocal Carol Corps, perhaps the most energetic and visible comic fan group. Go to a comics convention, you can't miss them.
LINK /
The idea that Captain Marvel isn't a wildly popular character in the Marvel Universe right now is simply wrong. At least, among comics fans. They haven't had this runaway of a purely comics success since Deadpool. If anything, Marvel has been stupid to wait this long to make a Carol Danvers movie.
ETA: I don't really care about the critic ranking, but if you do, you should absolutely use metacritic. RT just uses an up/down system while metacritic allows for a range of critical opinion for more accurate ranking.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:16 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Ant man and the Wasp has a higher metacritic score than infinity war? Whaaaaat
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:23 pm to Freauxzen
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When you retcon a comic book, you are talking about small changes, that will be seen, changed or reversed yearly, or monthly even, and slowly brought into importance.
Captain Marvel has always been Carol Danvers?
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:26 pm to Freauxzen
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Marvel took A LOT of liberties with characters that no one said a peep about, it's HOW and what the changes are, and how they match the characters that are important.
Which is pretty important with Carol Danvers. "The Rape of Ms. Marvel" is a feminist critique of Avengers #200 written in 1980 and it might be the single most important essay ever written about comic books as a medium. We can argue about when comics became a respected art form, but that essay is a huge part of the story and it showed comics could withstand true critical analysis (even an exceedingly harsh one).
LINK
Most importantly, the essay reached Chris Claremont, former writer of Ms. Marvel (and at the time, current X-Men writer). Claremont wrote Avengers Annual #10, which attempted to rectify some of the worst transgressions of Avengers #200 and most importantly, he took over Danvers and essentially prevented further harm to her character by taking her off the board and having Rogue kill her and steal her powers.
Pretty much everything that happened to the character from that point on has an echo of the Rape of Ms. Marvel controversy until finally Kelly DeConnick took over the character, dropped the Ms. and the swimsuit/thong, and designed her character after her Air Force pilot father. There is no character who was more badly in needing of rewrite, so much so that not even Clarmeont could fully rescue her from the damage done.
The WHY of Danvers is maybe more interesting than the comic itself. Her character history, and the backroom wranlging in Marvel's bullpen over it, is perhaps the most interesting in comic book history.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:29 pm to Baloo
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Captain Marvel is literally the best-selling comic produced by Marvel. There's also the active and vocal Carol Corps, perhaps the most energetic and visible comic fan group. Go to a comics convention, you can't miss them.
LINK /
The idea that Captain Marvel isn't a wildly popular character in the Marvel Universe right now is simply wrong. At least, among comics fans. They haven't had this runaway of a purely comics success since Deadpool. If anything, Marvel has been stupid to wait this long to make a Carol Danvers movie.
Do you have some historical trend numbers to back this up? Your link shows numbers from January 2019. I would expect her book to be selling well right before a major film drops...
ETA: Also, that's a number 1 issue. Sales of number 1 issues are always inflated for every book.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:34 pm to imjustafatkid
You do the research. I looked up last month's numbers, and this is what I found. It's literally #1. I make no argument about the sales in 2015 or whatever. The argument was that it's a poor selling comic, and I demonstrated that claim is incorrect. I feel no need to do more research on the topic. If no one was interested in the film, there would be no sales bump. The very proof there IS a bump shows interest that the OP denied existed.
And is your argument that it was Marvel's ONLY issue #1 that month?
And is your argument that it was Marvel's ONLY issue #1 that month?
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:53 pm to WeBleedCrimson
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Should have cast Yvonne Strahoski
frick yes.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 3:02 pm to RLDSC FAN
Metacritic has it as a 67.
My biggest fear for the movie is what the New York Post reviewer said. Larson is a bore in the role.
My biggest fear for the movie is what the New York Post reviewer said. Larson is a bore in the role.
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