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Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:14 am to CAD703X
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does it sound like i'm trolling if i say i had no idea spiderman was in this movie until i went to see it?
no, that actually sounds like a cool surprise for you.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:19 am to CAD703X
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1. the reason they were drawn to the remote location by zemo is because that's where the VHS tape was stored, right? not because he was trying to drag out the fight between stark & steve, but because he was looking for that tape to light the match.
Yes. He knew they would come to stop him from activating the other winter soldiers, but his reason for bringing them was the tape.
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wasn't one of the WS pods empty at the end?
Not that I noticed, but if there was one empty it was probably Bucky's.
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when zemo told the psychologist 'did i fail?' was that a veiled reference to the fact one of the soldiers is at large?
No. I think that was more along the lines of The Avengers no longer existed in the same form as they were prior to his actions.
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will there be any type of cross-over with xmen?
I don't see it happening in the near future.
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i had no idea disney bought spidey back from sony
They didn't. It was a collaboration between Sony and Marvel. In exchange, Marvel will collaborate with Sony on Spider Man: Homecoming.
Good Article on Zemo and His Motivations
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 11:31 am
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:52 am to Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:04 pm to CAD703X
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2. wasn't one of the WS pods empty at the end? when zemo told the psychologist 'did i fail?' was that a veiled reference to the fact one of the soldiers is at large? no one has mentioned it so maybe they were all dead.
Yeah. They emphasized it. The big bad Winter Soldier that led the insurrection, they showed him when Zemo opened the door, but never again, not with a bullet in his head.
And then they showed the empty fifth pod. Keep in mind, Zemo knew how to control the winter soldiers so it is not out of the realm of possibility the rogue winter soldier has marching orders.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:11 pm to theunknownknight
Just watched it this weekend.
Man i am Team Ironman all the way. Of course Tony went a little overboard and not backchecking some of the info Cap was trying to tell him. But damn, Cap just wanted to do whatever he wanted with no repercussions. Tony said it best when he compared it is the exact thing as the bad guys.
What really throws people off Tony's side is the trusting General Ross, someone who always takes the heros, locks them up and throws away the key. But the underlying idea of The Avengers needing to be guided and help accountable is realistic. It is proven Cap doesnt always make the right choices, helping out Bucky just because he is his friend. Cap says Bucky wasnt in his right mind, yet Bucky specifically says he remembers every one of his kills. He should be held accountable for it.
I wanted more explanation of The black panther. they didt give any incite of where his "powers" came from. They hinted at the ring, but i wanted more.
As everyone else said, spiderman was great, antman was great, black widow was same old boring no power black widow yet she can hang with super people.
And I dont get how scarlet witch is more powerful than Vision. I mean he is an infinity stone. the one that created her, she should not be able to take him.
Man i am Team Ironman all the way. Of course Tony went a little overboard and not backchecking some of the info Cap was trying to tell him. But damn, Cap just wanted to do whatever he wanted with no repercussions. Tony said it best when he compared it is the exact thing as the bad guys.
What really throws people off Tony's side is the trusting General Ross, someone who always takes the heros, locks them up and throws away the key. But the underlying idea of The Avengers needing to be guided and help accountable is realistic. It is proven Cap doesnt always make the right choices, helping out Bucky just because he is his friend. Cap says Bucky wasnt in his right mind, yet Bucky specifically says he remembers every one of his kills. He should be held accountable for it.
I wanted more explanation of The black panther. they didt give any incite of where his "powers" came from. They hinted at the ring, but i wanted more.
As everyone else said, spiderman was great, antman was great, black widow was same old boring no power black widow yet she can hang with super people.
And I dont get how scarlet witch is more powerful than Vision. I mean he is an infinity stone. the one that created her, she should not be able to take him.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:14 pm to CarRamrod
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As everyone else said, superman was great, antman was great, black widow was same old boring no power black widow yet she can hang with super people.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:21 pm to Dr RC
oops. Fixed. 
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:37 pm to CarRamrod
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But damn, Cap just wanted to do whatever he wanted with no repercussions
No, he doesn't want to have some corrupt politicians tell him what to do. He's already experienced that in the last movie. Hell Fury said Cap is calling the shots, and no one else seemed to have a problem with that b/c they all trust his judgment. Thor's hammer didn't budge b/c Cap can't be trusted to make good sound judgments for the betterment of the people of Earth.
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It is proven Cap doesnt always make the right choices,
yes he does.
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helping out Bucky just because he is his friend.
that's what friends do.
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Cap says Bucky wasnt in his right mind, yet Bucky specifically says he remembers every one of his kills.
I took that as him saying, "I remember them all, and they haunt me". Not "I remember them all, and frick yo mom"
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:59 pm to CarRamrod
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It is proven Cap doesnt always make the right choices, helping out Bucky just because he is his friend. Cap says Bucky wasnt in his right mind, yet Bucky specifically says he remembers every one of his kills. He should be held accountable for it.
This is not a reflection on Cap's judgement. Blaming Bucky for his actions as the Winter Soldier is the same as blaming the gun instead of blaming the person holding it. Steve understood that Bucky was the instrument of those deaths. Not the cause.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:01 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Right that why the 2nd option is retire. Get out of the terror fighting business. No one would be making him do anything, ah la military style chain of command. But he shouldnt be allowed to go all willy nilly where ever he goes.
No, he doesn't want to have some corrupt politicians tell him what to do. He's already experienced that in the last movie. Hell Fury said Cap is calling the shots, and no one else seemed to have a problem with that b/c they all trust his judgment. Thor's hammer didn't budge b/c Cap can't be trusted to make good sound judgments for the betterment of the people of Earth.
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yes he does.
quote:contradictory. And to further prove my point, Vision.... somone who and toss Mjölnir around, also feels some type of checks and balances should be in place. Vision, a 100% pure good being.
that's what friends do.
quote:While i agree with you, but he still has that mempory when he has been lying about not remembering what he is doing, when actually he does.
took that as him saying, "I remember them all, and they haunt me". Not "I remember them all, and frick yo mom"
They go through this whole movie to catch bucky and put him "under restraint" and gues what? At the end of the movie Bucky realizes he is a threat and does that exact thing.
Could have saved a whole lot of lives doing that earlier.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:02 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:absolutely not. A gun isnt a living being. a gun isnt going to get up and walk away. Bucky on the other hand....a ticking time bomb. hell as i said in what i just posted, HE knows it and puts himself under.
Blaming Bucky for his actions as the Winter Soldier is the same as blaming the gun instead of blaming the person holding it.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:03 pm to CarRamrod
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Cap just wanted to do whatever he wanted with no repercussions.
That's waaaaayyyyy wrong.
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But the underlying idea of The Avengers needing to be guided and help accountable is realistic.
Holding them accountable isn't the same as making them a tool of a government. That's all the accords did...make them a tool. It did nothing to actually hold them accountable.
Cap specifically says, "All it does is shift the blame."
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:04 pm to CarRamrod
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They go through this whole movie to catch bucky and put him "under restraint"
They had orders to "shoot on site".
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:13 pm to Freauxzen
quote:Cap wanted 100% control and that is a dictatorship.
That's waaaaayyyyy wrong.
quote:the latter part is a secondary effect of shifting control to a governing body. Whether bad or good. Look im on caps side with haing trust in the "government", but that doesnt mean he should have 100% control over the decision making.
olding them accountable isn't the same as making them a tool of a government.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:16 pm to CarRamrod
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While i agree with you, but he still has that mempory when he has been lying about not remembering what he is doing, when actually he does.
I'm not sure he was lying about his memory issues.
In Winter Soldier it seemed like there were times that his memory started to return and when it did they zapped it the frick out of him.
So the longer he is away from getting Hydra style ETC the more his past returns to him.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:18 pm to CarRamrod
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Cap wanted 100% control and that is a dictatorship.
Cap wanted his own government?
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the latter part is a secondary effect of shifting control to a governing body. Whether bad or good. Look im on caps side with haing trust in the "government", but that doesnt mean he should have 100% control over the decision making.
Cap believes in individuals, that doesn't shift the blame, and it doesn't mean he wants controls. He wants people to make up their own minds.
"What if they send us somewhere we shouldn't? And what if they don't send us somewhere we should?"
I mean, if you want to extrapolate this out to full fledged political discussion: Can 10 or so people in a room who really have no idea who someone like Loki is or what he is capable of, be trusted to make a decision to act? Let's say there's a government body in place before the New York incident? Let's say it takes them 12 hours to make a decision on whether or not to protect New York or to quarantine it. What then?
I mean, let's say there's, again, a body in place to control actions and Lagos happens. Does anything actually change in response? Or does it just open up the possibility that Wanda isn't blamed (and she probably still is anyways). Do responses change? Do processes change? Probably not.
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:23 pm to CarRamrod
What i am saying Cap wasnt 100% wright or wrong, but neither was Tony. Their viewpoints both had merit(on purpose not to sway one side ad being a bad side).
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:25 pm to CarRamrod
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And to further prove my point, Vision.... somone who and toss Mjölnir around, also feels some type of checks and balances should be in place. Vision, a 100% pure good being.
Vision is Jarvis in the flesh. Tony Stark created Jarvis. He isn't pure good being, and he likely does whatever the hell Tony Stark tells him to do b/c he is still sub servant to him.
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t the end of the movie Bucky realizes he is a threat and does that exact thing
Bucky realizes he's a threat b/c he has no way of not becoming a slave when someone tells him those specific words. He doesn't want to be the bad guy, but he has no choice when those words are said to him.
How some people don't see Bucky as a mere device for evil in all of this is beyond me. He is not in control of what he's doing, and he doesn't know how to prevent himself from being controlled. How is that his fault?
Bucky is not a bad guy. You can argue that Hulk is much worse than he is.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:27 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Bucky is not a bad guy. You can argue that Hulk is much worse than he is.
The problem with Hulk is that it's legitimately not Banner in this continuity. It's the Hulk. How you separate that, I don't know.
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