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re: Captain America: Civil War RT Watch | 92% (213-19) 7.7 avg
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:17 pm to The Last Son
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:17 pm to The Last Son
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:24 pm to The Last Son
quote:can u say it again?
The only real name outlets that I see are the ones who came out in that first batch of a dozen or so and I've already said why they all gave positive reviews
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:50 pm to The Last Son
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The Last Son
Dude. You are trying way, way too hard.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:32 pm to MrTide33
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There are some reviews that are barely positive, but they still acknowledge the film as not negative. 3/5 is a 60%.
There's no consistency to it. One of the 3/5 positive reviewers, I checked their review history and they had a few other 3/5s and it was a mixed bag whether they were recorded as positive or negative and it seemed they were saying basically the exact same thing about two different films (entertaining but flawed).
I just need to keep my arse off Rottentomatoes
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:47 pm to The Last Son
quote:you do, you're obsessing about it.
I just need to keep my arse off Rottentomatoes
in one post, you say that these movies aren't made for critics, so no need to pay any attention to them (BvS), and in another, you practically dissect these CW reviews down to the reviewer's history.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:56 pm to Methuselah
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Dude. You are trying way, way too hard.
GCA just can't come to terms with the reality that Snyder has no idea what he's doing if he really wants to make a legit comic book movie instead of the bland, generic, joyless and colorless disaster porn he shits out onto the big screen.
He just can't come to terms that Marvel, not DC but Marvel knows what they're doing, how they respect and understand their characters and put out stories that showcase why the characters are what they are.
It took me about a year and a half to really see how MoS just fell apart as a comic book movie even though it's a good alien movie using comic book characters but it wasn't a Superman movie. BvS was just funny to watch as a pathetic and disjointed mess that Snyder hackishly calls a comic book movie with good portrayals of Superman and Batman.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:37 am to Sentrius
Do you really believe all that crap you just typed or did you just word vomit and hoped a point might present itself.
I loved both BvS and Man of Steel. My only issue with BvS is that Warner Brothers didn't release the full 3 hour cut to theaters initially. Both of those movies are better than anything Marvel Studios has put out save for the two Cap movies and maybe the first Avengers movies.
Actually, thinking about The Avengers now after having seen BvS, it exposes a lot more issues that The Avengers had that no one every bothered to addressed (Oh look Norse Gods running around on Earth like nothing!)
I loved both BvS and Man of Steel. My only issue with BvS is that Warner Brothers didn't release the full 3 hour cut to theaters initially. Both of those movies are better than anything Marvel Studios has put out save for the two Cap movies and maybe the first Avengers movies.
Actually, thinking about The Avengers now after having seen BvS, it exposes a lot more issues that The Avengers had that no one every bothered to addressed (Oh look Norse Gods running around on Earth like nothing!)
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:47 am to The Last Son
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:49 am to The Last Son
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Do you really believe all that crap you just typed
Yes.
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My only issue with BvS is that Warner Brothers didn't release the full 3 hour cut to theaters initially.
That's really not an issue and marvel would have the same stance as well.
Sure you want to tell a good story in a good movie but if your goal is to do that while also making an absolute frick ton of money and getting over a billion dollars, you need more showings and a 3 hour movie does not get you more showings.
DC and Marvel aren't there to just tell a good story with a good movie, they're also there to separate you from the money in your wallet and get as much of it as they can.
By the way, you know it's a shitty movie and Snyder sucks when you need 3 hours or more to make a halfway decent movie when Marvel, Whedon and the Russo bros can make a good to excellent movie in just a little over 2 hours tops.
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Both of those movies are better than anything Marvel Studios has put out save for the two Cap movies and maybe the first Avengers movies.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 12:57 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:00 am to Sentrius
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Sure you want to tell a good story in a good movie but if your goal is to do that while also making an absolute frick ton of money and getting over a billion dollars, you need more showings and a 3 hour movie does not get you more showings.
I hear you, but Titanic and ROTK were both over 3 hours long and both made a shitton of money. Hell even Avatar was about 10-15 minutes longer than BvS.
I have my tickets already for Civil War next Thursday, I'm hoping it leans more towards a genuine Cap movie than basically being Avengers 3 by another name. Just curious, since you didn't like the current characterization of Superman, what was your favorite take on the character in the comics?
ETA: CW is 2 and half hours long. It's like 2 minutes shorter than BvS. Plus Marvel is all about style and style doesn't require a lot of time. As for Zack Snyder, Warner Brothers didn't bring him in to tell a story, they brought him in to make the story look great on screen. Hell they said as much way back when he was hired for MoS. Granted, the only real story decision he made for MoS was better than the suggestions that Goyer and Nolan had for the climax.
Let's be honest, the real issue here is that Marvel got a jump on them in the superhero franchise while they were kicking back making bank off of Harry Potter and more recently, The Hobbit. Once those wells dried up, they turned to their ace in the hole. But once Marvel set the tone (pun intended) everyone was going to compare DC directly to Marvel. If DC had their movies too similar to Marvel (both in tone and doing individuals before team ups) then people would have said they are just copying them and chastised them for that. They went for a different tone and method and people are shitting on them for that. I'd say it was a no win situation for them, but they are still making bank off of this movie just like they did with MoS and they have arguably the most hyped/anticipated movie for the rest of the year coming out this August which will print for them.
Reports of DC "failing" have been greatly exaggerated.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 1:11 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:10 am to The Last Son
you are going to absolutely hate it, I can already tell. you're setting yourself up to hate it as much as you loved BvS.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:16 am to The Egg
Probably not, I've seen a handful of movies since I saw BvS and none of them have really filled my need for spectacle since then. It all depends on my mood before going into the theater.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:18 am to The Last Son
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Titanic and ROTK were both over 3 hours long and both made a shitton of money. Hell even Avatar was about 10-15 minutes longer than BvS.
They were all novelties with unbelievable word of mouth with good stories that held up the movie well enough.
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what was your favorite take on the character in the comics?
All Star Superman and Kingdom Come. Best characterizations and portrayals of Supes I've ever read and showcase why he is what he is.
Although I like New 52 Superman since it's done a great job of answering the question of whether or not he needs his powers to be Superman.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 7:45 am to The Last Son
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If DC had their movies too similar to Marvel (both in tone and doing individuals before team ups) then people would have said they are just copying them and chastised them for that.
No one would have cared if DC actually made good movies. No one. Everyone wants DC to succeed despite what the conspiracy theorists want to believe. But you're thinking this:
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Both of those movies are better than anything Marvel Studios has put out save for the two Cap movies and maybe the first Avengers movies.
Actually, thinking about The Avengers now after having seen BvS, it exposes a lot more issues that The Avengers had that no one every bothered to addressed
When Marvel movies are objectively just plain better. Better received. More remembered, more profitable, more unique, better word of mouth etc. The only win that DC's current two movies get are subjective "I like them more."
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They went for a different tone and method and people are shitting on them for that. I'd say it was a no win situation for them, but they are still making bank off of this movie just like they did with MoS and they have arguably the most hyped/anticipated movie for the rest of the year coming out this August which will print for them.
The different tone would have been fine, again, if the movies were actually a much higher quality than they were. Well that and significant changes to Superman's character being abolished. Those are the two big problems.
It's simple, people like films, when people want to go to a film they don't want to "shite on it" for the most part. They want to like it. DC hasn't really given anyone much to like, tone or not.
Do you really think SS is more hyped than CW?
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Reports of DC "failing" have been greatly exaggerated.
DC is not failing to make some money, yes, but they've failed in making good films. They will lose significant public appeal if SS is another BvS too. People are trying to buy into the universe and they just aren't building anything interesting yet. Now, any movie with a Batman or Superman will be successful, that much is true.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:14 am to Sentrius
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All Star Superman and Kingdom Come
I agree with this. If you haven't read it, give "What Ever Happened to Superman" a try.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:24 am to The Last Son
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Marvel is all about style and style doesn't require a lot of time
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As for Zack Snyder, Warner Brothers didn't bring him in to tell a story, they brought him in to make the story look great on screen.
You really don't see the glaring contradiction in these two statements?
Marvel's all about style, but DC doesn't hire their director to tell a story only to make it look great? Seriously?
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 8:27 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:30 am to Green Chili Tiger
The fact that he actually liked BvS while other DC fan boys on this board hated it tells me all I need to know about his taste in movies.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:30 am to Green Chili Tiger
how'd i miss that gem from him? so style over substance, and he practically even admits to the notion that BvS/MoS may not have a decent story, yet the critics are wrong?
and he's going to hate the shite out of CW bc it's everything BvS isn't.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:37 am to The Last Son
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I loved both BvS and Man of Steel. My only issue with BvS is that Warner Brothers didn't release the full 3 hour cut to theaters initially. Both of those movies are better than anything Marvel Studios has put out save for the two Cap movies and maybe the first Avengers movies.
lmfao! please take synders cock out of your mouth dc fanboy
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:07 am to tigerclaws15
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The misleading title is the one complaint the film has to accept: it's certainly no solo adventure for Cap, but that's a good thing.
I think this is a good point. I find it amusing that they called it Captain America, when in reality, it's probably just another Avengers film.
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