re: Can Someone Explain Why Diversity Makes a Movie Bad?

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Rose's character would suck if she were asian, white, black, brown, orange. Finn's character too. We get it, guys. It chaps your arse that 2 of 8 Star Wars movies have more non-white good guys than the usual.

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Wow. You manage to properly define the problem but still draw the wrong conclusion. The mind of a liberal, I guess.

People are mad Bc those two characters, which you acknowledge are suck, were given prominent storyline BECAUSE they are non-white.

It does not unless diversity trumps plot and character.

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Yeah, I'd love some sort of Sith antagonist like Azula.

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Agreed a female force using villian would be badass. I think a female sith that was so powerful she didn't use a lightsaber but was powerful with mind control/manipulation and other force abilities(lightning etc) would be such a great character

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Sorry, but my very first thought upon hearing of the sequel trilogy was "The main Jedi protagonist has to be a girl this time". It's a very easy way to switch it up and it's something we haven't seen in the main series yet

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I’ve read every EU novel written. I had zero issue with Rey being the main protagonist. In the EU Jaina Solo became one of my favorite characters and i loved seeing her grow as a character into basically the best of both of her families.

I have a 6 year old daughter and I have a way to introduce her to this world that I love so much because of Rey. That’s awesome as a fan. Plus, Daisy Ridley is just owning this role. So my gripes with TLJ have nothing to do with a female being put into the center.

Much like your Aliens comment, Ripley is an awesome character. I’ve been spouting this over and over again and it seems to just be lost on some people: diversity can be a part of the story, but it can’t be the only story. In Aliens there are scenes where Ripley has to prove her worth to the Marines. And her femininity is played completely different than Vasquez. So her innocence evolves across the story into the woman that says “get away from her you bitch.” Ripley evolves from the cynic softened by Newt into a motherly role that would do anything to protect her child, including being a badass.

Contrast that with the new Ghostbusters. The entire movie is a giant middle finger to men. The climactic battle is literally the girls shooting the male ghost in the dick. In TLJ, the entire subplot of Poe is a giant slap against men and in direct contrast to Leias character traits from the original trilogy. There is no reason for Purple Dern to hide the plan from Poe to the point of mutiny aside to make a point that brash men can’t be trusted.

Also, for a film so worried about diversity filled with freaking aliens, I found it telling that the evil rich people were all white men and women.

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Much like your Aliens comment, Ripley is an awesome character. I’ve been spouting this over and over again and it seems to just be lost on some people: diversity can be a part of the story, but it can’t be the only story. In Aliens there are scenes where Ripley has to prove her worth to the Marines. And her femininity is played completely different than Vasquez. So her innocence evolves across the story into the woman that says “get away from her you bitch.” Ripley evolves from the cynic softened by Newt into a motherly role that would do anything to protect her child, including being a badass

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Aliens is the benchmark on how to incorporate a female lead and individuals of color.

As I put in the Fox thread, the entire B-plot of Aliens is Ripley trying to recapture her motherhood by proxy to Newt.

Ripley lost her daughter due to being lost in Space. It legit devastated her to the point that I believe she accepted the mission to not only face her fear, prove she was right, and potentially die. The dying part actually was visited by Aliens 3 (but that movie sucked arse).

As you pointed out, Ripley wasn't some uber badass or a being with powers. She was a normal woman. However, what made her extraordinary is the do it at all cost attitude. She was hell-bent on making sure she didn't lose another daughter.

shite now that I think about it more Aliens was a Ripley redemption movie more than anything!

I love that movie.

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When TFA came out, so many people complained about a female protagonist. When Rogue One came out, SO MANY PEOPLE COMPLAINED because it happened a 2nd time.

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Change what you read or where you get your news. It will help. Trust me. All those people you talk about are the loud minority. The movie killed ticket sales at the box office. Stop reading click bait crap.