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re: Bloomberg - Star Wars Is Struggling to Win Over the Next Generation of Kids

Posted on 8/8/19 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by ZappBrannigan
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 5:11 pm to
Let's be honest WB would've fricked that up too.
Posted by RealityTiger
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Let's be honest WB would've fricked that up too.


More than likely yes, but depending on who they gave creative control to. But I think it would have still felt like Star Wars. Which is why so many people have finally learned to appreciate the prequels after the diarrhea we've gotten recently.
Posted by jbraua
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 5:33 pm to
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TL;DR - Kathleen Kennedy is the reason for the failure of Disney's Star Wars venture.


This is correct.

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Kathleen Kennedy failed the Star Wars franchise with her SJW bull shite. Instead of using these movies to bring the old trio back together for one last hurrah before passing the torch to a new and younger generation, Kennedy wanted minority characters to take over the new trilogy from the very beginning.


This is also correct.

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Lucas sold the franchise to the wrong freaking person.


This is incorrect. Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney; however, they collectively went with the wrong person to spearhead the studio.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:26 pm to
Lots of fail in this thread.

First off, I'm not really buying the, my kids aren't into it.

They are kids and have a million options of entertainment that none of us had. What they are excited about this week will change next week.

And like other people have said. The hoards of people will come out when it's completed. Just like they did for Pandora. New stuff also brings the locals that hadn't been in years.

This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:39 pm to
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This is incorrect. Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney; however, they collectively went with the wrong person to spearhead the studio.


It's like people here want to forget/ignore that Kennedy was hand picked by Lucas. She was going to run Lucasfilm no matter who bought it. She was part of the deal.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:46 pm to
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All toys were inferior to the micromachines (both sizes)

Eta: except the diecast hand sized ships from the original release


You would really like the X-Wing board game pieces. Remind me a lot of the micro machine stuff but higher quality and of course much higher price.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:08 pm to
That’s false.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:40 pm to
Not false. Lucas hand picked her and he wanted her to run it.
Posted by stateofplay
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Posted on 8/9/19 at 8:12 am to
Star wars is boring cause all they do is fight the Empire.
Marvel fights different villains and has different heroes for everybody.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/9/19 at 8:59 am to
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Kathleen Kennedy is probably going to go down in history as one of the greatest producers in the history of Hollywood.


Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:13 am to
Laugh if you want, I don't like what she has done with Star Wars either but her list of Producing credits is pretty impressive.



Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:28 am to
Imagine Justice League but with Star Wars. We'd all be saying why didn't the mouse buy it?
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:30 am to
I do not have the space for it.

But I do need to break out my old star wars micromachines for Starfinder, somewhere in my parents attic.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/9/19 at 6:32 pm to




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Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 8/9/19 at 6:44 pm to
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Star wars is boring cause all they do is fight the Empire.
Marvel fights different villains and has different heroes for everybody.


Rogue One was against the empire and was good.

These movies are against the First Order. It’s been two movies I don’t know who they are or what they want. The big bad (Snoke) got killed off easily. The main bad guy, Kylo Ren hasn’t won a fight. Ever! I wouldn’t hire him to guard my dog house. The hero can’t lose. She’s a mechanic, a pilot, a Jedi warrior, a tax accountant, a Supreme Court justice, a nuclear physicist, lead singer of a rock band, etc. etc. The good guys are resisting...something. frick the casino world! What was that crap.

This trilogy wasn’t thought out, the story and planning are a disaster.
Posted by keks tadpole
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Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:13 pm to
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They are good actors and have done well with the material they have been given,


But they don’t hold a candle to Harrison Ford, carrie fisher. Alec Guinness, James earl jones or peter cushing. Even puppet yoda is a bettter actor than those three.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:23 pm to
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X-Wing


1993 PC/DOS version is a masterpiece and is just a fun to play as the PS versions 25 years later.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:51 pm to
Again, you are wrong.

Kathleen Kennedy was named the co-chair of Lucasfilm in June of 2012 alongside George who would stay on for at least a year, at which point she would succeed him as sole chair.

Lucas sold Lucasfilm in October of 2012, Kennedy became President of Lucasfilm and then was appointed brand manager of Star Wars later.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Lucas wanted Kennedy overseeing new Star Wars movies because Lucas explicitly said in January 2012 that he wasn’t doing anymore blockbusters.

Lucasfilms was fully under Disney control when she was named their brand manager.

So no, it wasn’t Lucas who put her in charge of the Star Wars franchise. Until he sold to Disney, there were going to be no more Star Wars movies.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
58084 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:01 pm to
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Lucas knew it was time to do something else—but not before he left his baby in capable hands. At first he struggled to come up with a successor. “I racked my brain to figure out who do I trust and who do I know really well and is level-headed, who understands the business side of it but also understands the creative side of it,” he says. “And finally I banged into it and said, ‘Oh, my God, it’s Kathy.’?”

To Lucas, Kennedy’s ability to maneuver through studio circles while maintaining high artistic standards may have even surpassed that of his old friend Spielberg. “Steven became powerful enough to where he was pretty much left alone,” says Lucas. “I mean, he never really exercised his power as far as I was concerned, but Kathy learned how to navigate that world very, very well.”

In Lucas’s own mind at least, the decision was made. When he invited Kennedy to meet for lunch in New York in April 2012, he asked her if she knew he’d been toying with the idea of retiring. “I thought he wanted to ask me to come up with some names for him,” recalls Kennedy. Once she realized he was offering her the job, she almost agreed on the spot. Lucas, though, first had to call Spielberg. “He wasn’t technically her boss—it was just about friendship,” Lucas says. “It was kind of like, ‘Oh, by the way, Steven, I’m going to marry your wife.’?” (Lucas says Spielberg was initially in shock but came around quickly. Spielberg says he appreciated the gesture.)

By June 2012, Kennedy was named co-chair of Lucasfilm, initially running the studio alongside its founder. She barely had time to settle in, however, before another big shift came along. Unbeknownst to Kennedy, Lucas was already in talks to sell Lucasfilm to Disney. (He had likewise kept Disney in the dark while negotiating with Kennedy.) His original intention had been to stay on for a few years, as his successor transitioned into the company. He would then release the first film in the new trilogy and sell it off, with her at the helm. But, he says, things moved much faster than anticipated. Lucas, who was about to get married to his second wife and was entertaining the idea of having another baby, was eager to escape the daily grind of running a business. “I realized that I could hold on the extra two years, and maybe make another billion dollars,” he says. “But at that point, when I was 68, I said, ‘Time is more important to me than money.’?”

By December, the deal was done: Disney had acquired Lucasfilm, Lucas had stepped down, and Kennedy was now president—working for a new boss, Iger.



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He put her in charge knowing he was selling to Disney, knowing he was going to retire fairly soon, and knowing she would succeed him. He wanted her to take control my dude.
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