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re: Bloomberg - Star Wars Is Struggling to Win Over the Next Generation of Kids
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:45 am to jlovel7
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:45 am to jlovel7
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What makes you think that?
Current trend lines.
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I got mine with the epic 23 movie Infinity Guantlet arc.
10 to 12 of those films were pretty good.
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:47 am to MightyYat
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It’ll be what Harry Potter is. Not in any way a Disney park killer.
You seriously underestimate the power of Nintendo. It is far more reaching than Harry Potter. Nothing will be a Disney Killer, there is so much room for both to compete in Orlando, more competition is better because both will get far better for us. It will make this park a must do far more than Harry Potter has done.
Just look at Pokémon Go, the entire world was playing it for a few months. Nintendo has a massive draw for people.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:50 am to jlovel7
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Please elaborate on this.
Google it, the contract language is online. Marvel sold the theme park rights east of the Mississippi in the USA for their most popular characters to Universal. This all happened before Disney bought Marvel. Only thing that really has made it likely that Disney will get the rights back is Universal can't change anything or build anything new without Marvel aka Disney permission. So Universal is stuck with the world they have now and won't get to add anything new or update it. So Disney can just wait it out until the park is really really dated and buy them out for much cheaper.
They are also stuck with comic versions, they can't use MCU stuff unless Disney wants them to use it.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 9:54 am
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:00 am to MightyYat
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It’ll be what Harry Potter is. Not in any way a Disney park killer.
Fun fact: Pokemon is the biggest and most profitable media franchise in the world. Significantly more than any IP owned by Disney. Mario isn't far behind.
Nintendo has some of the most iconic IPs in the world, many of which are lucrative enough to make even a company like Disney a little envious.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:28 am to Cs
The characters suck tbh. Nobody likes Rey bc she has no personality. The rest are walking stereotypes. But nobody is cool like Han was. Rey isn’t the same type of strong willed woman like Leia. Technically Luke was the weak link between the original 3, but he was still a dynamic character and obviously kids loved the force back then
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:31 am to Dam Guide
Universal sucks. Have you been there lately? Every single ride is a 3D simulator ride. They’re all garbage. They feel fake like you’re watching a movie, it doesn’t feel like a real experience like Disney World rides do
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:32 am to Sasquatch Smash
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I've said this before on here.
"The Last Jedi" retroactively made "The Force Awakens" a worse movie.
I agree with this. I saw TFA three times in the theater. It had its issues, but they were forgivable. TLJ ruined everything. Absolutely everything. The characters are blah. The villains are forgettable. The story is lame. And as an added bonus, they make beloved characters suck. Just awful.
Rogue One isn’t bad. Decent character development for a one off. A great villain, plot line with a good story. Solo isn’t bad, but that’s about as good as you can say about it.
TLJ is simply a franchise killer. I’ve seen every Star Wars movie released in my lifetime at the theater. Even seen the re-releases. Some I’ve even seen multiple times. I didn’t see Solo in theaters and won’t see a new one until somebody else takes over.
How I feel about Disney and KK:
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:59 am to whatiknowsofar
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and George fricked up by not making sure when he handed it over that the arc would be concise and clear.
I'll give this to Lucas, I didn't like the prequels and he lost a little of the edge creating new aliens. But he will never not be savvy at marketing.
He left enough holes to fill between all 3 movies with books and shows that were engaging at points for old and new fans.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:07 am to Dam Guide
I always wondered why Maximum Carnage never got an update to one of the newer symbiote events.
Now I know.
Now I know.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:09 am to Upperdecker
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Universal sucks. Have you been there lately? Every single ride is a 3D simulator ride. They’re all garbage. They feel fake like you’re watching a movie, it doesn’t feel like a real experience like Disney World rides do
I like Universal, I go there far more often than I do Disney mainly cause I get free tickets.
I wouldn't call Disney more like a real experience, you are clearly in a theme park surrounded by a bunch of people you don't really want to be around in both parks. It's more nostalgic. It's more like comfort food. Plus the level of immersion at Disney is only something Universal has started to do with Harry Potter. Parts of Universal need facelifts or retheming to get there, but they are working on it.
I do agree with 3D simulators, they do lack on dark rides. Hoping we get there with the new park, especially in Super Nintendo World.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 11:24 am
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:23 am to Cs
Marvel is this generation's Star Wars.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:43 am to Upperdecker
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Universal sucks. Have you been there lately? Every single ride is a 3D simulator ride. They’re all garbage. They feel fake like you’re watching a movie, it doesn’t feel like a real experience like Disney World rides do
I agree. Universal in LA is awful. Everything is sunfaded, and t he park is tiny and over crowded. The new Jurassic World ride is pretty awesome though.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:00 pm to Napoleon
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I got Ogas booked the early slot so we didn't have to worry about Rope dropping. Go in get their version of an Irish coffee and a snack. Then ride millennium falcon.
We arrive the day after Rise of the Resistance opens (god help us
) I made dinner reservations for Wednesday of our trip just to see Galaxy’s Edge at night.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:40 pm to Cs
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Fun fact: Pokemon is the biggest and most profitable media franchise in the world. Significantly more than any IP owned by Disney. Mario isn't far behind.
Nintendo has some of the most iconic IPs in the world, many of which are lucrative enough to make even a company like Disney a little envious.
The people that make Nintendo and Pokémon so popular will likely never step foot on US soil. The Asian market drives those numbers up big time and they ain’t heading to Florida to go to universal.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:45 pm to Dam Guide
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You seriously underestimate the power of Nintendo. It is far more reaching than Harry Potter. Nothing will be a Disney Killer, there is so much room for both to compete in Orlando, more competition is better because both will get far better for us. It will make this park a must do far more than Harry Potter has done.
I’m not underestimating it at all.
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Just look at Pokémon Go, the entire world was playing it for a few months. Nintendo has a massive draw for people.
This sentence sums up universal. It’s a place you want to go for a day or two and that’s it. They lack shows, food options, etc, that put disney at another level. The place gets its oldest, least updated park packed to the gills with a food and wine festival. They know how to entertain.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:49 pm to Suntiger
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I saw TFA three times in the theater. It had its issues, but they were forgivable. TLJ ruined everything. Absolutely everything. The characters are blah. The villains are forgettable. The story is lame. And as an added bonus, they make beloved characters suck. Just awful.
I, too, saw it 3 times in the theater and echo these thoughts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:52 pm to MightyYat
It's got it's claws in people from 5 - 40.
Pokemon Go Active Users
This is just for the US.
The fans are here.
Eta: nm the above is a projection.
better look at it than above
And this is just one product.
Pokemon Go Active Users
This is just for the US.
The fans are here.
Eta: nm the above is a projection.
better look at it than above
And this is just one product.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 8/8/19 at 1:03 pm to Suntiger
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TLJ is simply a franchise killer.
Of course it is. You can't set out to intentionally destroy something and then pretend to be surprised when you succeed.
Creativity is wonderful and if Rian and KK wanted to be creative with the new characters then that would have been welcome. It would have helped to have a story arc with characters people cared about instead of the satire of Star Wars TLJ turned out to be.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 1:13 pm to MightyYat
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I’m not underestimating it at all.
You certainly do if you think it won't draw more people there than Harry Potter. It's much bigger of an IP by far than HP. Far more IP to use for attractions as well. With the amount of room they will have in the new park, they could separate Mario and Pokémon if they are smart and give it a much bigger footprint.
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This sentence sums up universal. It’s a place you want to go for a day or two and that’s it. They lack shows, food options, etc, that put disney at another level. The place gets its oldest, least updated park packed to the gills with a food and wine festival. They know how to entertain.
HHN are just as crazy. Freakin lines for the haunted houses are awful without fastpasses.
CityWalk has ton of awesome options and they have Mythos in the park. They've been working on their in park food as well, it's gotten loads better. I can't say the same for Disney, hell even Be Our Guest has taken a hard nose dive, most of the must go to restaurants outside of Epcot are more for kids to experience characters than the food. Disney Springs is trying though, not as easily accessible while at the parks though as CityWalk.
The whole one/two day experience is what they are changing by adding double the space. They have a much smaller footprint than Disney. So I would say they are working on that as well.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:06 pm to MightyYat
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The people that make Nintendo and Pokémon so popular will likely never step foot on US soil. The Asian market drives those numbers up big time and they ain’t heading to Florida to go to universal.
North America is Nintendo's biggest market.
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