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re: Bigger Oscar Sham: Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan or Annie Hall
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:03 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:03 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan
You mean The Thin Red Line?
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:12 pm to REG861
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Shall I keep going?
Explain to me how one mob movie isn't like the other. One Western is completely different from the other?
Maybe what you people are missing is that I appreciate originality. As good as it gets, good will hunting.... As far as I know, original stories.
If you love reincarnations of Romeo and Juliet (Titanic) or another mob movie or Western, so be it.....but by no means is it a masterpiece because it isn't an original, one of a kind.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:18 pm to Kujo
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Explain to me how one mob movie isn't like the other. One Western is completely different from the other?
Maybe what you people are missing is that I appreciate originality. As good as it gets, good will hunting.... As far as I know, original stories.
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If you love reincarnations of Romeo and Juliet (Titanic) or another mob movie or Western, so be it.....but by no means is it a masterpiece because it isn't an original, one of a kind.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
So godfather was the first mob movie, "whacking" guys, family conflict and betrayal?....Rose was the first to fall in love with a guy she wasn't suppose to and then kill herself to join her dead love?
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:37 pm to Kujo
None of Shakespeare's plays were original stories. Clearly, he was a hack.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:41 pm to Baloo
Not really a fan tbh.
Van Gogh+ monet > da Vinci + Michelangelo
So you paint people exactly the way everyone else does?
Van Gogh+ monet > da Vinci + Michelangelo
So you paint people exactly the way everyone else does?
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:45 pm to Kujo
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So godfather was the first mob movie, "whacking" guys, family conflict and betrayal?....Rose was the first to fall in love with a guy she wasn't suppose to and then kill herself to join her dead love?
No, but Good Will Hunting was clearly the first movie to have an orphan with an amazing gift that was abused his entire life only to overcome his inner demons
And As Good as it Get was the first love story with people from different backgrounds that struggle in their relationship but wind up together.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:47 pm to H-Town Tiger
Superman?
Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:17 pm to H-Town Tiger
I like that he's trying to do his "super original" smack down with a painter who has been dead for 125 years. And was clearly a disciple of Adolphe Monticelli, who if we're giving points for originality, gets the credit as the forerunner of the Impressionists.
Honestly, Michelangelo was every bit as radical of an artist as Van Gogh in his time. So his argument is not only dumb, it is historically ignorant. Michelangelo was a forerunner to the Baroque era despite being a Renaissance painter/sculptor.
But I'm an El Greco man, myself.
Honestly, Michelangelo was every bit as radical of an artist as Van Gogh in his time. So his argument is not only dumb, it is historically ignorant. Michelangelo was a forerunner to the Baroque era despite being a Renaissance painter/sculptor.
But I'm an El Greco man, myself.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:34 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Chicago over The Pianist and Titanic over Good Will Hunting and LA Confidential.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:37 pm to Rakim
Citizen Kane was nether ahead of it's time or better than How Green Was My Valley.
Political hack attack movies had already been done before Kane.
How Green Was My Valley was a movie shown to the people of a time that has past now and it is a shame people do not get the movie now days.
Kane was a bomb when it came out and still is not a top 100 movie, and most do not get the near 40 inside jokes of the movie, some get the 2-3 main ones.
Chaplain's The Great Dictator is a far better political hack movie that took World War II for the public to see it as classic.
Kane was made in the years of the 50's when that generation looking back for rebels to glorify, found a hero in Orson Welles. It's proclaimed number 1 spot for years is finally coming to an end and maybe Gone With the Wind will return to number 1 one day as it was for years until the so called next generation movie critics made Kane number 1.
Political hack attack movies had already been done before Kane.
How Green Was My Valley was a movie shown to the people of a time that has past now and it is a shame people do not get the movie now days.
Kane was a bomb when it came out and still is not a top 100 movie, and most do not get the near 40 inside jokes of the movie, some get the 2-3 main ones.
Chaplain's The Great Dictator is a far better political hack movie that took World War II for the public to see it as classic.
Kane was made in the years of the 50's when that generation looking back for rebels to glorify, found a hero in Orson Welles. It's proclaimed number 1 spot for years is finally coming to an end and maybe Gone With the Wind will return to number 1 one day as it was for years until the so called next generation movie critics made Kane number 1.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 6:10 pm to tigger1
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maybe Gone With the Wind will return to number 1 one day as it was for years until the so called next generation movie critics made Kane number 1.
Gone With the Wind is going in the opposite direction, I hate to tell you. Sounds like you like the operatic stuff. Critics just aren't into it anymore.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:21 pm to tigger1
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itizen Kane was nether ahead of it's time or better than How Green Was My Valley.
Political hack attack movies had already been done before Kane.
Are you related to kujo?
If someone likes GWTW as the best movie, that's cool, that's an opinion I can respect. But to claim Citizen Kane was not ahead of its time because its a "political hack movie" then thats an opinion without any substance or understanding of film history really.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 12:06 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:32 pm to Kujo
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Explain to me how one mob movie isn't like the other. One Western is completely different from the other?
Maybe what you people are missing is that I appreciate originality. As good as it gets, good will hunting.... As far as I know, original stories.
If you love reincarnations of Romeo and Juliet (Titanic) or another mob movie or Western, so be it.....but by no means is it a masterpiece because it isn't an original, one of a kind.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:54 pm to Kujo
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Explain to me how one mob movie isn't like the other. One Western is completely different from the other?
I'm good. I'll just let the general ridicule your post attracted speak for itself.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Good Will Hunting was clearly the first movie to have an orphan with an amazing gift that was abused his entire life only to overcome his inner demons
The Scout came before Good Will Hunting. Therefore, The Scout is better because it did it first.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:33 am to RollTide1987
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Titanic (USA, 1997) is a film directed by James Cameron, who described the film as "Romeo & Juliet on a ship" when pitching it to studio executives.
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"Shakespeare in Love," a film with a screenplay by Mr. Stoppard and Marc Norman, is about how Shakespeare wrote "Romeo and Juliet," or, rather, how he should have written "Romeo and Juliet."
Goodwill Hunting pitch....it's like the scout, but at harvard, like Superman but he's human and his superpower is Math?
As Good As It Gets.....uh..Rainman meets Benny and Joon meets Philadelphia?
I think any time you can accurately describe a story by mentioning or referencing 1-2 films...creates a glass ceiling for me.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 11:47 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:43 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Saving Private Ryan is arguably the best FIRST and LAST 30 minutes of any war film ever made, but it is dreadful in the middle.
I enjoyed Shakespeare in Love, and thought it was a much better overall film.
I'd go with Annie Hall over Star Wars as the bigger sham, but the Aacdemy voters of the late 1970's would never choose a sci-fi film (that they thought was intended for kids) over a Woody Allen masterpiece.
I enjoyed Shakespeare in Love, and thought it was a much better overall film.
I'd go with Annie Hall over Star Wars as the bigger sham, but the Aacdemy voters of the late 1970's would never choose a sci-fi film (that they thought was intended for kids) over a Woody Allen masterpiece.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:53 pm to Kujo
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I think any time you can accurately describe a story by mentioning or referencing 1-2 films...creates a glass ceiling for me.
This only describes every single film.
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