re: Big Brother 21 - Season Long Thread - Premiere June 25th

I agree but every member of the six shooters can win comps. The other side can go ahead and count Jess and Nicole out. This week was there shot to send the vote to a tie and have Cliff boot Jack to even the score a little better. Christie having that power still is going to screw with the other sides plans until it is used.

Do you think Cliff would have actually gone through with being the tie breaker to send Jack out?

Too many people are doing what’s best to get further, rather than doing what’s best to win the fricking game

Cliff needed a 6 shooter to go to have a better chance at winning it all

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Not really just on Cliff. The rest of the house had a chance to tie the vote and they didn’t do it.

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Kat. Once Cliff knew she was voting with the six, the week was dead. They need three more to send it to Cliff. They had it in Kat, Jess and Nicole.

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My only hope is for cliff, jessica, kat, nicole, nick, and sam to come to their damn senses and realize that if they all teamed up they'd have their own 6 person alliance to combat the other. It's the only way ANY of those people have a chance.

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That chance was last night. They’re about to lose another number this week. Christie has her power next week. They’re done.

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After watching Nicole make up with Bella, and her message to Bella, I realized Nicole is the type of person that absolutely deserves the way someone like Bella treats her.

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what? Nobody "deserves" to be bullied and mercilessly ganged up on, especially for doing nothing but exposing lies.

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At a certain point you go past being nice and forgiving, and you are just gullible and a pushover.

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nicole eventually did stand up to bella and call her out. Also once bella was out of the game, what is the point of piling on and talkign shite? Nicole is a bigger person than most of us, IMO.

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what? Nobody "deserves" to be bullied and mercilessly ganged up on, especially for doing nothing but exposing lies

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I’m not defending the bullies. I’m saying I reach a point where I stop feeling sorry for someone like Nicole when she keeps letting the bullies back in.

She had people standing up for her. She had people telling her it wasn’t right. Her response was to go against those people and run into the arms of the people being mean to her. Of course, they turned on her immediately. She even admitted it was her own fault at this point.

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nicole eventually did stand up to bella and call her out

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And forgave Bella after that the first time Bella was nice to her, even though everyone knew Bella was just trying to save her own arse and get their votes.

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Also once bella was out of the game, what is the point of piling on and talkign shite?

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Where did I say she had to pile on and talk shite? There is a lot of middle ground between that and, “omg I love you and let’s be best of friends outside of the house”.

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Nicole is a bigger person than most of us, IMO.

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If some horrible person is punching you in the face, then only stops because their arms got tired, it doesn’t make you an amazing person to then say, “omg I love you let’s hangout now”.

Then after hanging out with you for like a minute, that person realizes they can use their legs and starts kicking the shite out of you. They only stop because the cops have arrived and have a gun pointed at them. It doesn’t again make you a better person to yell as this person is being taken away in cuffs, “omg you are the greatest person ever, please be my friend”.

She has more in common with someone with Stockholm syndrome than being a bigger person than everyone else. In fact, she might be worse than someone with Stockholm syndrome because I think those people are usually treated well by their captors.

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If some horrible person is punching you in the face, then only stops because their arms got tired, it doesn’t make you an amazing person to then say, “omg I love you let’s hangout now”.

Then after hanging out with you for like a minute, that person realizes they can use their legs and starts kicking the shite out of you. They only stop because the cops have arrived and have a gun pointed at them. It doesn’t again make you a better person to yell as this person is being taken away in cuffs, “omg you are the greatest person ever, please be my friend”.

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holy hyperbole batman. First of all this is a dumbass game on TV, not a physical harm situation. People were talking crap, nicole passed that info along (which was truthful), then the actual crap talkers lied about it so bella blew up at nicole. And yes she was submissive, but I think that situation was more of bella being a childish bithc more than nicole being a weakling. I never saw niocle trying to go out of her way to be friends with bella, but I also don't hav ethe live feeds so am probably missing some stuff. Then her exit interview was cordial with the canned, repetitive, "hope we're cool on the outside" that just abotu every other HG says in eviction vids. I would be stunned if nicole makes any effort whatsoever ot be friends with bella IRL.

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Nicole is doing something right. She’s pretty much a lock for jury and I could see her surviving once the six shooters start turning on each other.

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She needs to position herself to be the 7th shooter so she can be the swing vote when they have to start flipping on each other.

But as bad as the gameplay has been I can see them as a group just letting one of the power players just cakewalk to the finale.

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She needs to position herself to be the 7th shooter so she can be the swing vote when they have to start flipping on each other.

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That’s between her and Kat.

I wouldn’t be shocked to see the girls come together to get the guys out in the coming weeks. They have no chance against Jack and Jackson in a final three situation. Christie knows this.

Did Kat screw up or innocent slip?

Poison Ivy punishment looks awful on tv