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re: Better Call Saul S3 E10 Lantern (Season Finale)
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:14 pm to AggieDub14
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:14 pm to AggieDub14
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Because Gus has respect for Don Hector, even if he is a prick to him.
No. Perhaps he wanted to tbe the one to kill him slowly as punishmnet for killing his friend so many years ago in Mexico though. VENGEANCE is why he helped keep him alive. Or he still needed him for his plans.
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:52 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Kim was rocking the hell out of those PJ pants and t-shirt. That may be her hottest outfit.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:58 pm to DupontsCircle
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It doesn't. This one just is poorly contrived.
You argue against it more than he argues for it. You bring it up even when he doesn't say a word about it. It obviously bothers the hell out of you and personally I hope he's right just to see you lose your shite in here.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:10 pm to Tigris
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Honestly, this season ending episode was a letdown. Chuck burning down his house with the lantern was the obvious storyline, and Hector had his stroke right on cue. And no Mike at all? I'm reaching the conclusion that a series about Mike would have been much more interesting.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you are clearly in the minority....... By a lot.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:12 pm to Merck
Speaking of wild theories, and apologies if this has been discussed, but is it 100% certain that Chuck actually committed suicide last night? I don't mean "is he still alive?" He definitely dead.
But I was semi-questioning if from the fixed look on his face, could he maybe have lapsed into a catatonic state and him kicking the the table was reflexive, more than him intentionally making the lantern fall. If he wanted to off himself, why not just kick the table super hard to knock it off, or do it in any number of ways that would be exponentially less painful?
Just food for thought. I have no emotional investment in this theory and I can be convinced I'm wrong very easily.
But I was semi-questioning if from the fixed look on his face, could he maybe have lapsed into a catatonic state and him kicking the the table was reflexive, more than him intentionally making the lantern fall. If he wanted to off himself, why not just kick the table super hard to knock it off, or do it in any number of ways that would be exponentially less painful?
Just food for thought. I have no emotional investment in this theory and I can be convinced I'm wrong very easily.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:14 pm to Twenty 49
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Kim was rocking the hell out of those PJ pants and t-shirt.
She has a great body. Beautiful arse and face. Decent tits, smart, driven, not too emotional........ Could be my perfect woman.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:25 pm to AggieDub14
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Because Gus has respect for Don Hector, even if he is a prick to him.
What? You think he respects the man who killed his lover in front of his face? The man he tortures psychologically throughout Breaking Bad?
Gus told Mike that now is not the time to kill Hector and I think regardless of Don Eladio's decree that all distribution go through Los Pollos Hermanos, it is still not the time to kill Hector. Throughout BB and BCS, Gus has always done what he can to play nice with the cartel; he works with them even though they killed his lover; he works with them even as Hector is a prick to him; he holds no grudges (at least openly) and shows respect.
Gus is a professional because he wants absolute stability. He needs stability with the cartel until he has built up his own distribution, his own enforcement, and his own production. He keeps his hatred for Hector in check because as long as Hector owns north of the border but is being cut down by Eladio, Gus has the upper hand and the high ground.
Gus has a good thing going with the status quo and he will do his best to maintain that status quo until he has Gale Boetticher cooking meth underneath the laundry lab he's building and until he has his own army of enforcers built by Mike. His operation is just not powerful enough yet. Gus patiently waits his turn before he shakes up things with the cartel.
By telling his men to call 911 and offering to see to it that Hector gets an ambulance while offering Juan Bolsa his escape, the cartel will trust Gus has their intentions in his mind even more.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:32 pm to dpd901
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But I was semi-questioning if from the fixed look on his face, could he maybe have lapsed into a catatonic state and him kicking the the table was reflexive, more than him intentionally making the lantern fall. If he wanted to off himself, why not just kick the table super hard to knock it off, or do it in any number of ways that would be exponentially less painful?
I was unsure too; the camera angle where they are zoomed in on his face alone it looked like he was just out of it, but then in the other shot with the lantern in the foreground and Chuck in the background as he was kicking it, it appears he was looking directly at the lantern intently.
My ultimate conclusion was that he was so dejected by his current situation that he just spontaneously decided to kill himself in the most obvious way that was right in front of him, without regard to the consequences.
He looks like he has intent in this shot, no?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:38 pm to efrad
You're probably right. I watched on my iPad, so I didn't catch that. I'm the grand scheme of things, I guess it doesn't matter. There won't be a note and Jimmy won't know for sure. He'll blame himself and Howard most likely for Chuck's demise.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:01 pm to efrad
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He looks like he has intent
Yeah, I definitely think it was deliberate.
If it wasn't, he could have just run outside. It's not like he's in a wheelchair and even allowing for the dramatic license of the house pretty much instantly going up in flames, he could have escaped if he had wanted to do that.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:08 pm to Walking the Earth
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he could have just run outside. It's not like he's in a wheelchair and even allowing for the dramatic license of the house pretty much instantly going up in flames, he could have escaped if he had wanted to do that.
I don't know. It just seems like a really weird way to off yourself. If he was in a catatonic state and just kicking the table as some sort of reflex then he wouldn't be able to just jump up and run out. Remember in the earlier seasons he went into a state like that and couldn't move because he "felt" the electricity. That seems like a better scenario to me, but then they flashed the suicide prevention hotline number after the episode credits so.....
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:17 pm to efrad
As soon as Howard told him that he was paying him off with his own money, Chuck was done.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:20 pm to Merck
Pretty sure he knew what he was doing. He was getting better and motivated by getting back to work to redeem himself. When working got taken away from him he slid back to crazy Chuck. He knew he was going to spend the rest of his life in that dark room, so he just ended it.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:34 pm to dpd901
I agree. Chuck went crazy. It wasn't a suicide. He was just trying to stop the lamp from burning.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:35 pm to Merck
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the suicide prevention hotline number after the episode credits so.....
I didn't see that... that probably puts my theory to bed as far as the creators intent.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:41 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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quote: Kim was rocking the hell out of those PJ pants and t-shirt. She has a great body. Beautiful arse and face. Decent tits, smart, driven, not too emotional........ Could be my perfect woman.
You better believe it moved.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:40 am to Wrenchruh
Good man
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:15 am to Ham Solo
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Ham Solo
I hate to break it to ya buddy but Vince Gilligan completely blew up the idea of J+K=S on Talking Saul.
He said that Kim isn't around during Breaking Bad and that losing Kim will absolutely crush Jimmy, and they are working on writing how that will play out and contribute to Jimmy's total conversion into Saul Goodman.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:19 am to efrad
I just watched again. What really stands out to me is that Chuck was more hurt by the loss of his relationship with Howard than he was by anything Jimmy did.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 6:36 am to PowerTool
Gus saves Hector. That decision may blow up in Gus's face one day.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 6:37 am
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