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Ben Affleck has the most articulate and realistic explanation on AI's effect on Hollywood
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:53 pm
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Dude certainly knows his stuff.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:20 pm to rickgrimes
I think he’s right on some and wrong on some. The part about AI won’t create anything new is laughable when you look at what Hollywood churns out these days.
He’s right in that it won’t have as big an effect on actors is right for established folks like himself. Young actors are screwed. You think Hollywood will be out looking for a great young actor to play their role when AI can just put a young Clint Eastwood in the role?
He’s right in that it won’t have as big an effect on actors is right for established folks like himself. Young actors are screwed. You think Hollywood will be out looking for a great young actor to play their role when AI can just put a young Clint Eastwood in the role?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:33 pm to wareaglepete
yes, because the cost to use the "Clint Eastwood model" will be more expensive than just using a young actor. If the goal is to churn out content and graphics and effects aren't an issue, just flood the market with that content.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:38 pm to Richleau
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yes, because the cost to use the "Clint Eastwood model" will be more expensive than just using a young actor.
Why do you pay someone like Leo big $$$ now to be in your movie instead of an unknown actor? Be cheaper with unknown. Odds of box office draw are greatly increased with a famous actor. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money.
The issue in the future is these actors who are high odds to make money will always be around and whatever age you need them to be. Less and less opportunity for someone coming up to work their way to being that actor.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:08 pm to wareaglepete
Perhaps, but just like anything, too much over saturates all. Will some use these types of models? Sure, but new will always be in style. I could see bit parts of ai models driven by new stars for sure. Also, there will be drive to create new stars as the ai model revenue will make it up on the back end if the star is particularly appealing.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:19 pm to Richleau
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yes, because the cost to use the "Clint Eastwood model" will be more expensive than just using a young actor.
Here's a bit of a different take on that, and I have no idea if it's been addressed yet. What if a studio buys the "Clint Eastwood model pack" then merge it with a couple other model packs to create something new then use that "actor" along with a voice they create? Would that considered its own IP?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:21 pm to Bard
I don't think so. Name image and likeness I think would apply, but it would be funny to see Clint Eastwood with a different voice or like an orc or something.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:42 pm to Richleau
Not gonna lie but it would be epic to see prime Pacino, Denzel, Leo, heath ledger, etc all in the same movie. Incorporate classic actors as well.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:52 pm to rickgrimes
That discussion was so last week here
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/movie-tv/the-changing-landscape-of-hollywood-in-the-ai-and-anti-woke-worlds/116012113/
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/movie-tv/the-changing-landscape-of-hollywood-in-the-ai-and-anti-woke-worlds/116012113/
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:08 am to rickgrimes
He looks and sounds like someone who just did a bump of cocaine.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 6:24 am to rickgrimes
He makes the fatal mistake of assuming that the studios and the audience actually care about quality.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 6:47 am to Gifman
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He looks and sounds like someone who just did a bump of cocaine.
Most likely did while railing a Nanny and then cheating on the Nanny. Dude is smart but is a grade a self entitled douche.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:44 am to rickgrimes
His assumption that AI films are "not in our near future"... If he means "not next year", yeah. But if he thinks we won't have AI films within the next ten years, he's insane.
And he assumes that "fixing things" means the background or the color of your shirt. "Fixing things" will mean directors tweaking the actors' performances in post. Changing lines, delivery, facial expressions. He thinks that his job is safe and that AI will replace the "thousand non-creative people that it takes to render". That's bullshite. He's going to eventually show up to a set and ask where the background actors are for his restaurant scene, and they'll explain that (for now), only the main characters are live. They're not paying for secondary or background actors, or set designers, or writers past the first script.
Look at CGI characters in 1985 (Money for Nothing music video) and CGI characters in 1995 (Toy Story). That's the leap we'll see in AI, but I doubt it will take an entire decade.
And he assumes that "fixing things" means the background or the color of your shirt. "Fixing things" will mean directors tweaking the actors' performances in post. Changing lines, delivery, facial expressions. He thinks that his job is safe and that AI will replace the "thousand non-creative people that it takes to render". That's bullshite. He's going to eventually show up to a set and ask where the background actors are for his restaurant scene, and they'll explain that (for now), only the main characters are live. They're not paying for secondary or background actors, or set designers, or writers past the first script.
Look at CGI characters in 1985 (Money for Nothing music video) and CGI characters in 1995 (Toy Story). That's the leap we'll see in AI, but I doubt it will take an entire decade.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:29 am to rickgrimes
Whistling past the graveyard.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:35 am to udtiger
This is Coke's holiday commercial that everyone is hating on.
Tell me that in 10 years they won't get past the creepy effect and will have seamless AI films.
Tell me that in 10 years they won't get past the creepy effect and will have seamless AI films.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:08 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Seamless AI films in 10 years? Not happening. First off, you will still have well known actors/directors/producers making films and they would have nothing to do with it except for enhancements in post -- AI aided color correction, VFX, etc.
Dialogue is the key -- There will never be a time where this feels real. Acting (driven by human emotion) is too nuanced to be replicated by AI driven elements. Any AI feature film will always feel like a video game.
Now, I do see commercials, music videos and animated films being created in AI. Anything that is driven by visuals over acting/editing/real life sets and environments.
Dialogue is the key -- There will never be a time where this feels real. Acting (driven by human emotion) is too nuanced to be replicated by AI driven elements. Any AI feature film will always feel like a video game.
Now, I do see commercials, music videos and animated films being created in AI. Anything that is driven by visuals over acting/editing/real life sets and environments.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:24 pm to rickgrimes
When you watch those youtube videos of film students breaking down things like shot composition and lighting and using space within a shot and positioning to focus attention and created a desired mood or feelings and such, that is art and experience that I cant fathom AI replicating. Can AI make a commercial or Toy Story 10? Probably and I definitely see how making a movie like Ready Player One or something CGI heavy would be a fraction of the cost.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:43 pm to JW
quote:What about Netflix? The Hallmark Channel? You can't tell me we won't have an AI film on Netflix by 2034.
Seamless AI films in 10 years? Not happening. First off, you will still have well known actors/directors/producers making films and they would have nothing to do with it except for enhancements in post -- AI aided color correction, VFX, etc.
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