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re: Beatles Get Back trailer. Airs on Disney+ November 25 in 3 parts

Posted on 11/28/21 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 4:21 pm to
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man they nailed those “let it be” final takes
Just finished and episode 3 was really good. The concert takes were true musicians hitting it full stride. While the doc was long it really gave great insight into what really went on. John reading the tabloids of what people thought was going on showed how much this doc really showed what was really going on.

Upon review, Ringo was the coolest of the Beatles, the talent that John and Paul had was amazing and George was a great musician and person too. At the end it really made me sad that we lost John and George so soon as I think they loved each other and would have gotten back together in some form that only the four of them together could make happen.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 4:42 pm to
Finished episode three today. Loved it. I jotted down some of my thoughts as I was watching it.

It’s cool seeing George stop what he’s doing to go help Ringo with Octapus’s Garden. And even though he helped him write it, it was credited to only Ringo. And I can’t imagine how exciting it was for Ringo to bring a song and it make an album. I think he had two solo credits in their entire catalogue. You can really tell that George and Ringo may have been the two closest Beatles.

Old Brown Shoe. Another example that George’s songs were not up to snuff with J&P’s (at this time at least).

John is fricking hilarious.

I love that they keep doing take after take of Get Back and everybody wants to move on but they keep wanting to do it again.

It’s interesting to hear John talk about Allen Klein knowing everything that’s coming with that dude. And interesting that Glyn Johns basically was warning John about him and John says basically that he’s a conman but at least he’d be on their side.

The conversation about the songs where Paul is making his points about doing a film rehearsal or George making an album, it’s very telling. And you can tell several things. Paul wants to lead but it also honestly seems like he tries to not be overbearing. John has sort of checked out. He keeps saying how tired he is but he’s the one staying up all night every night doing random shite (and not writing songs). And you can kinda tell that Paul is frustrated with John not pulling his weight.

There’s George talking about all of the songs he has that he wants to record. ATMP was definitely his creative outlet for all the songs he had building up inside of him. And I agree that had they been like “okay, let’s all go do our own solo stuff and reconvene every five years for new Beatles shite” the world would’ve been much better.

The concert is amazing. It’s crazy how good they sound live. And you can tell they (at least Paul and John) are really enjoying it. Paul was right that they perform their best when their backs are against the wall and they just have to shut up and perform. And I loved all the spliced in video of onlookers, each Beatle, policemen, etc.

I did feel kinda bad for the police dudes. Hahaa. But come on, dude, it’s the fricking Beatles performing live. Just relax a little and give them half an hour before you shut them down. Mal and the receptionist going back and forth stalling with them was great.

It was hilarious when Mal reaches over and starts turning off their amps because of the police, and George just calmly reaches back and turns his back on and keeps playing.

What’s weird is that some of the songs where it said “this version appears on the Let It Be album” didn’t sound like the actual versions on the album (unless the torrented albums I got years ago are not the original versions).
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 8:05 pm to
Boy was I dumbass calling this out as yet another documentary.

As a superfan I'm just past ep 1 and it blew me away
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 8:31 pm to
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Boy was I dumbass calling this out as yet another documentary.
I think this shows tells more about the dynamic between them that anything we have ever seen.

Especially how they crafted so many amazing songs in such a short time and how good there really where in the studio and live.

Losing Brian Epstein (mentioned early in the doc) really was the beginning of the end when they didn't have a 3rd party to manage the egos. Elvis was the first one to go threw any close to what they went threw in the "new TV era" he was a solo act.

Seeing this makes what the Stones have done just that much more amazing.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 8:36 pm to
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What’s weird is that some of the songs where it said “this version appears on the Let It Be album” didn’t sound like the actual versions on the album (unless the torrented albums I for years ago are not the original versions).
I bought Let It Be when it came out and it always seemed to have a "raw/bare feeling" to many of the songs and now I know why. The albums right before Let IT Be were produced to a masterful level (much overdub, extra sounds etc) and Let It Be seemed almost like that just recorded it live in the studio...because they did!!
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 8:51 pm to
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The concert is amazing. It's crazy how good they sound live. And you can tell they (at least Paul and John) are really enjoying it.


My eyes actually watered up, for multiple reasons: vicariously feeling their absolute joy in getting to perform live again, me getting to watch the Beatles perform live again, and me realizing this was their last time ever performing live together.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:20 am to
yes by the time they get to song three they are in the zone and clearly having fun. And the playing is extraordinary

one thing about the Beatles that has always amazed me is how they can create these classic songs in the studio that they obviously think are good and they obviously enjoy playing and then...never play them again

Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:00 am to
just finished part 1. Loko sitting in on every session is annoying AF.

the song writing of Lennon/McCartney is incredible.

they smoke a LOT of cigarettes.

Ringo may be the smartest Beatle, he just stayed hung out and played when it was time.
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:57 am to
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Sorry, I love all these songs but only Weeps belongs in that top 3


And for me, on some days in a particular mood, "Something" is my favorite overall Beatles song.



What's crazy is that, in this thread, multiple people have listed different songs as their favorite George song:

musik: While My guitar Gently Weeps
CCT: Here Comes The Sun
Cocomo: Here Comes The Sun ( on certain days)
LSUFreek: Something


I guess, beauty is in the ear of the listener.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted by CCT
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:05 pm to
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My eyes actually watered up, for multiple reasons: vicariously feeling their absolute joy in getting to perform live again, me getting to watch the Beatles perform live again, and me realizing this was their last time ever performing live together.


Man, I got VERY emotional several times throughout all the episodes. You could tell these guys knew each other as well as the back of their hands, and the “love” for each other is subtle, but it’s there. The “Beatles” was the sum of these four individuals and that they created something their individual selves could not do as well is undeniable.

I like Harrison’s earlier music and some of his All Things Must Pass set. His music seems to me to be a lot of 7th chords or minor 7th chords…but definitely a lot of minor chords and they sound more “bluesy” to me. His stuff was more complex than L&M and watching them go through the All Things Must Pass song made me think that John and Paul were struggling to do the chord work. They could do it, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think either of them wanted to labor that hard to make music. George was coming into his own style.

I personally think Something and Here Comes The Sun are the best songs on Abby Road.

I love what Peter Jackson did with this. It needs to win an Emmy or an Oscar. These episodes and that final concert made them human…yet very much the myth that grew after they parted ways.

shite and frick. I wish like HELL they had agreed to regroup every several years to make a Beatles album. I absolutely KNOW that album would have transcended anything they did individually. That’s a reason I got emotional. They could have done that.
Posted by CCT
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:12 pm to
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they smoke a LOT of cigarettes.


Lol, my wife and I successfully quit smoking last December. We both had been smoking for around 35 - 40 years. We both had Covid and just got tired of it and threw our packs away.

I told her I felt like I was getting cancer from just watching them smoke!
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:20 pm to
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shite and frick. I wish like HELL they had agreed to regroup every several years to make a Beatles album. I absolutely KNOW that album would have transcended anything they did individually. That’s a reason I got emotional. They could have done that.

yep

unfortunately the world demanded more from the beatles than it was healthy or possible for them to provide
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:59 pm to
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their favorite George song

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Cocomo: Here Comes The Sun

FWIW, I don't have a favorite George song. If I had to choose, I guess it'd be between Here Comes the Sun and Something though, depending on my mood.

I really, really like While My Guitar Gently Weeps and think it's one of his best songs overall. But it does take a little away for me knowing that it's Clapton that stands out on that song, above the singing, the lyrics, the playing, etc. So while it's definitely one of my favorite George songs, I wouldn't pick it for that reason.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:07 pm to
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s by the time they get to song three they are in the zone and clearly having fun. And the playing is extraordinary

One of my favorite parts was seeing the joy on Paul's (and at times, John's) face during the concert. He knew they were killing it...he said that was when they were at their best, and you could tell he was genuinely excited that he was right. Which is why we get those "WOOO"s during some of the songs in the set.
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one thing about the Beatles that has always amazed me is how they can create these classic songs in the studio that they obviously think are good and they obviously enjoy playing and then...never play them again


That's true, and something that you don't think about a lot. A lot of their most famous songs (and most creative) have never been played live, or even by themselves once it was recorded. Kinda weird, if you think about it.





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I love what Peter Jackson did with this. It needs to win an Emmy or an Oscar.

I am hoping there is more footage out there of stuff like this, especially from the Beatles. Like surely there had to be a camera here and there while they were recording Abbey Road. I'd love to see that shite with this same treatment. And supposedly those recording sessions were more enjoyable for the four of them than these were (once they left Twickenham).
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:27 pm to
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You could tell these guys knew each other as well as the back of their hands, and the "love" for each other is subtle, but it's there.


Fvck, I can't recall the songs now, but John was noting to Paul the ying-yang of the songs each had written, "You wrote Get Back and I wrote (??? something about going away, I forget) " then says something to the effect of "we are thinking about topics so alike, people might think we're sleeping together." They were definitely Brothers-from-another-Mother.

Speaking of which, Paul's mother died (Mother Mary from Let It Be, btw) when he was 14. John's mother died when he was 17. I am certain these tragedies/coping-with-loss helped strengthen bond between these two. It also helps explain the maturity in their early lyrics (Help!, Yesterday, In My Life, etc..) that you wouldn't ever expect from teenage-early 20s Boy Band.

Posted by musick
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:30 pm to
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You wrote Get Back and I wrote (??? something about going away, I forget) " then says something to the effect of "we are thinking about topics so alike, people might think we're sleeping together." They were definitely Brothers-from-another-Mother.


They were joking about the whole narrative about Paul and John being lovers (the other song was Don't let me down) and then they just kept going down the songs

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Loko sitting in on every session is annoying AF.


I felt the same way but by the second part and def 3 you forget about her unless she's doing the freakout. I think the filmmakers realized her distraction early on, they have a conversation about it in ep 2, but Paul and everyone seems to support them. But right after that the angles on John really start to frame her out, I think as well.

I have to say, I'm only about 1/3 through the last part, but this whole thing just crushed the whole "Beatles fought the whole time at the end" narrative. Sure, they had a spout with George, but it was quickly resolved, and it's amazing to see the fake news press even way back then just literally make shite up (the boys had a fist fight).

The other thing that struck me, was the amount of light hearted humor throughout, we were supposed to think these guys were fed up with each other and the entire time they are goofing around, even self deprecating their own hit songs by singing them with silly accents, joke lyrics, or just off key, it's really hilarious how much they do that stuff.

And I'm not sure if the people posting here saying John has checked out got to the Apple Studios part yet. Once Lennon/McCartney got into that familiar studio setting, which by now was their domain, you can just tell the effect it had, the whole TV studio start was a bad start. But after they get there, John steps up big time and you can tell he's a huge part of this album which also traditionally he wasn't thought to be.

I have to also say how much Billy Preston really injected the entire project with a shot of energy bc the minute he stepped in the entire project just goes warp speed. It's cool to see building bc multiple times John and Paul want to be on the piano and have all the guitars,yet can't pull it off live, they really wanted a keyboardist and mention it a few times before he shows up. It's also very awesome to see Preston sitting there at first with the HUGEST smile on his face realizing he's literally just joined the Beatles.

I can't tell you how many shite EATING GRIN moments I've had when I know they are about to nail a key part to a song and it just all comes together like magic.

It damned near is magic
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:40 pm to
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Billy Preston


Yeah, they stepped up their effort significantly when Billy arrived. From random-song/half-assed jamming to actually actually working on songs for the album. Kind of like kids acting on their best behavior when a guest arrives.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:44 pm to
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And I'm not sure if the people posting here saying John has checked out got to the Apple Studios part yet. Once Lennon/McCartney got into that familiar studio setting, which by now was their domain, you can just tell the effect it had, the whole TV studio start was a bad start. But after they get there, John steps up big time and you can tell he's a huge part of this album which also traditionally he wasn't thought to be.


My comment earlier (if you meant that for me) was that John didn't come with his usual songwriting titles like he usually had done before then. I think that's what Paul was annoyed about. Plus the whole thing with him always being late and all that. But like the doc showed, John at least recognized that he was being late all the time and said that if he commits to being there at a certain time then he should make a point to be there on time.

But outside of not having as many songs as normal, he definitely contributes a good deal to the whole process. And like I said, his talent playing the guitar is undeniable. It looks so effortless for him.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:54 pm to
Yea true enough, I just think the Twickenham start really had everyone out of sync, I don't think John was late much after the move, it felt like everyone preferred being there. John even says at one point it feels like home.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:54 pm to
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