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re: Beatles Get Back trailer. Airs on Disney+ November 25 in 3 parts

Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:58 pm to
I can't get over how much Yoko looks like that chick from The Ring.









Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 5:39 pm to
all 123 songs played in the documentary, in order of appearance

LINK
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 6:18 pm to
Man, that's great recap. Fun read.
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:48 am to
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And he doesn’t say much either. Although he’s not as silent as Ringo is.



Ringo is like the child who is sitting in a room full of adults and is afraid to say anything and get noticed, because it’s passed his bedtime!
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:20 am to
Really good Rolling Stone article on Get Back


Rolling Stone
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:41 am to
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Really good Rolling Stone article on Get Back


Rolling Stone


Man, that writer is pretentious and tries way too hard to be a little too on the nose with his references, but some of the moments are interesting.
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One morning Paul comes in with a riff in his head — he strums while George and Ringo yawn in his face. Then they notice it. George plays along. Ringo does his hand-claps. They’re whipping up “Get Back” on the spot. What the frick? Whatever else the virtues of this song (never a fave for me), they love playing it together — for them, the riff is a clubhouse where they can hang out and converse. “A goer number,” as George Martin would say.(I promise I won’t keep bashing MLH, but the fact that he had this scene on film, yet suppressed it from Let It Be? Practically sabotage.)

This is a great point, and one I thought about as well when watching...how the hell can you knowingly have that on film and choose not to include it in the original doc? It's literally the creation of an iconic Beatles hit, and it's all captured on film from its inception to it's finished recording. I agree that it's criminal that it's taken over 50 years to get that out into the open.
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Ringo plunks out “Octopus’ Garden” at the piano. Everybody chuckles. But George comes over with his guitar and helps Ringo turn it into a real song, asking for zero credit, even though he’s having enough trouble getting the band to consider his own tunes. The generosity here says so much about these two. On his 80th birthday TV special last year, Ringo explained how George helped him write: “I can write it all, but I can’t end it, so he’d end my songs for me!’”

This is what I said a page or two back. That was a really cool moment to see on film. George honestly wanted to help Ringo. I mean shite, this is from the Wiki page for the song:
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"Octopus's Garden" is a song by the English rock band the Beatles, written and sung by Ringo Starr (credited to his real name Richard Starkey), from their 1969 album Abbey Road. George Harrison, who assisted Starr with the song, commented: "'Octopus's Garden' is Ringo's song. It's only the second song Ringo has ever written, mind you, and it's lovely." He added that the song gets very deep into the listener's consciousness "because it's so peaceful. I suppose Ringo is writing cosmic songs these days without even realising it."

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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:02 am to
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This is what I said a page or two back. That was a really cool moment to see on film. George honestly wanted to help Ringo. I mean shite, this is from the Wiki page for the song:


George’s empathy for Ringo was probably inspired by his songs also getting the cold shoulder on too many occasions.
Sure, Ringo mostly dabbled in novelty songs, but stifling any musicians creative processes isn’t good for a band.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:52 am to
another good review here

LINK

and i agree with the general sentiment...the whole 8 hours "is" a bit much, but i still want more .. john & george are gone, and paul & ringo will be gone sooner than later. this is for posterity, and should be viewed that way
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:29 pm to
wow

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Colbert asked Jackson about how the band reacted to the documentary and if they learned anything from it, and Jackson responded with a story about George Harrison and John Lennon:




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Jackson continued, “So that to me was a picture of how The Beatles could have survived going forward: Do their solo work and still come together every now and again to do The Beatles. Now Paul didn’t hear that conversation in 1969 and he didn’t know that even happened. He sees the film and I ask him, ‘What do you think about that conversation that you would have seen for the first time where George and John talk about the solo album? That sort of paints a picture of how The Beatles could have carried on in the future.’ You know what Paul said to me? He said, ‘I wish I knew they said that at the time.'
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:34 pm to
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This is a great point, and one I thought about as well when watching...how the hell can you knowingly have that on film and choose not to include it in the original doc? It's literally the creation of an iconic Beatles hit, and it's all captured on film from its inception to it's finished recording. I agree that it's criminal that it's taken over 50 years to get that out into the open.


The Beatles self edited and limited what the film could show, they probably at that time didn't think noodling and showing the literal creation moment of a song should have the curtain lifted off just yet.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:57 pm to
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and i agree with the general sentiment...the whole 8 hours "is" a bit much, but i still want more .. john & george are gone, and paul & ringo will be gone sooner than later. this is for posterity, and should be viewed that way



I too found some of the documentary redundant and tedious, but when I saw John’s face light up singing” don’t let me down” live , a tear welled up in me, wishing he were still around to see this!
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 4:24 pm to
Do yourself a favor, especially if you aren't fond of the Let it Be album, after watching this go listen to Let it Be ...Naked (restored in 2003 to these performances (initiated by Paul, not happy with the Spector cut), adding back Don't let me down which was robbed from the final original tracklist, and no Spector)

It really enhances the album, knowing all that background
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 5:24 pm
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 5:50 pm to
That moment when your vision of getting shutdown by the police comes full circle:

This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 10:14 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:01 pm to
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Let it Be ...Naked

I like the album, but I have no problem with what Phil Spector did with the original songs. I like the “wall of sound” type stuff he is known for. The songs sound great in their original album form IMO.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:48 pm to
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The songs sound great in their original album form IMO.




Both are good, but Naked would be "original form" of the songs, and Spectors vision (just on three tracks, BTW) works pretty well too, I just think it slaughter's long and winding road, and omitting don't let me down is just criminal imo.

I like the wall of sound he brought, but for this album it's just not meant for it, the entire project was a "live to tape" approach, which is why it was "Get Back", in the first place, back to the basics.

Phil's stuff is mostly great, but it was not intended for these sessions imo.

That said, both are essential, especially after seeing this, imo

To give you an idea "A day in the life" is one of my favorite tracks, I like the wall of sound...

I think the surviving Beatles agreeing to the Naked.. project speaks volumes, but on that same note, every one supported the Spector cut intially (except Paul)
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 7:29 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 6:52 pm to
This guy was the coolest:



But then this square young wanker dissing them confused about the roof:



And maybe the best moment:


This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:09 pm to
watching the first episode now, damn they kind of sucked, but then they write get back on the fly and i'm floored

i retract my sucked statement, they are clicking now and it's magic
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 10:26 pm
Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:57 am to
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watching the first episode now, damn they kind of sucked, but then they write get back on the fly and i'm floored

i retract my sucked statement, they are clicking now and it's magic



They were intentionally understated as musicians. They were more focused on groove, vibe, and melody.

At one point George is complaining because he wants to do fancier guitar work. He goes on to talk about how Eric Clapton does all this cool stuff. Paul mocks him for a bit and eventually tells him to stay in his lane.

Lennon was jaded as hell but he sure loved him some Paul.


Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:14 am to
One thing that blew my mind was that Paul only had two basses and one of them was had a right-handed nut so the strings kept popping off. Instead of getting a new bass he is just like frick it I'll play guitar instead. They were rich and could get anything they wanted. There were probably 5 music stores within walking distance.

His guitar part on it turned out to be pretty slick and complimentary to the other two guitars so the skeptic me thinks it may have been staged for the documentary, but who knows..
Posted by Stan Switek
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 7:10 am to
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Do yourself a favor, especially if you aren't fond of the Let it Be album, after watching this go listen to Let it Be ...Naked (restored in 2003 to these performances (initiated by Paul, not happy with the Spector cut), adding back Don't let me down which was robbed from the final original tracklist, and no Spector)


LIBN attempted to reverse engineer those mixes. They have now released the actual mixes from Glyn Johns from 1969 - 1970, including Don't Let Me Down, on the Special Edition released this year.
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