re: Avengers: Infinity War Director on Defenders in the Films

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but the Hydra that seems to be forming in AOS might be doing something much bigger, which we will find out more on Tuesday.

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I think the Hydra that is forming in AoS is going to go in it's own direction towards an Agents of Shield enemy, they are going to build up their strength, and fight the secret warriors as more of a mystical Hydra.

The Ant-Man head of hydra is going to be more along the lines of the Red Skull version of Hydra I think, and if we even see them in the MCU again, I think it'll be this version, completely disconnected from the Hydra we see in Shield (similar to the disconnection we are seeing in the MCU Shield vs. Agents of Shield)

P.S: I hope I'm wrong, and I'm really hoping this week's episode of Shield brings in something that rocks both worlds.

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As for anyone talking about S.H.I.E.L.D's connection to the MCU - it has been massively diminishing with each season, the first season had that huge tie-in with WS, but since then it's basically a "yeah this happened, now we are here in the aftermath... ok onward we go"

Even Ant-Man had a different version of Hydra than we are seeing in Shield, which wouldn't surprise me if the Hydra we saw in Ant-Man is the one that shows back up in the MCU, not the Shield one.

That being said, Shield is more connected to the movie world, but Joss was also the main guy behind some of the movies and the show, now he's not connected to anything but the show for the foreseeable future, so he's going to focus on the show, and I think we see more and more separation from SHIELD and the MCU, at least until the show is cancelled, or Inhumans is released.

ETA: I think the next big crossover with Shield and the MCU will be the reveal of Coulson being alive (which could, not surprisingly be, when the show is cancelled... or InHumans is released

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Except Season 3 has been obviously leading up to Civil War.

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Except Season 3 has been obviously leading up to Civil War.

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The thing is, the writers from AOS get to read the movie scripts ahead of time, so they know what's going on in the movies and can make some tie-in's.
The movie side of things don't care what they are doing on tv, and can't rely on the show even being a show anymore from the time they finish the script and the movie comes out.
But i'd still like some cameo appearances, even if they are insignificant.

The show pretty much needs to be cancelled, or planned to end for Coulson or anyone else to have anything significant to do with the movie.

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Except Season 3 has been obviously leading up to Civil War.

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While I wish, and hope this is true... Have you seen the latest trailer for civil war? They are going in a different direction in the movie of civil war than the comics.

I would actually say with the newest arc in shield, they are moving away from the civil war story, and into the secret warriors story

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A) I never really knew there was even a rumor that the Netflix Defenders would EVER show up in the film franchise

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Eh that's blowing a load early. That's something you keep in your back pocket. There's no doubt that some fans WANT it.

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B)I think we kinda see why S.H.I.E.L.D has kinda gone in it's own direction without connection to the movies at this point

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Malick says hello. AoS is helping build foundation for Civil War and it's working really well.

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C) For anyone who has watched DD or JJ and complained about "Why couldn't you at least put Stark Towers in the shooting" - it could be that Marvel never intends on bringing the two together, which brings me to:
D) The people that complain about the DC shows on The CW not matching up with the DC Films.. can basically shut up now, the same thing is happening at Marvel, but Marvel is basically lying to you and saying they are in the same world... when in all reality, they are their own thing.

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The criticisms were never simply about "exiting in the same world," or not. Mostly this came from the "Why does DC not go with one full universe thing?" They weren't necessarily complaining, just saying that it was strange that they wouldn't do it. The only news here is that Marvel may not be as united as it seemed early on. Ok, that does suck. But there's no gotcha.


On that note though, one thing I complained about DC's take was that they would just keep creating new versions of the same characters. Gotham+Affleck for one. (Is the rumor true about Supes in Supergirl?). Flash (and sorry, Gustin is AWESOME. I'm not sure the other guy can do it.) And there are the Green Lantern hints as well and we know we'll see him on the screen. And then for some weird reason, they kill Deadshot for the film. It's not a strategy I love because...

We'll never see characters like Dick Grayson. He's almost too big to give a bit part to, but not big enough to get his own show and not have people think Batman #3 (Although a Grayson show would be fun.). And that makes me super sad. I mean did you ever think to say Jessica Jones would be on television before Dick? That's my biggest issue is that DC seems really uneven in approach. They are separate, yes, but when do they allow overlap and when do they not? Right now, it isn't clear. Legends of Tomorrow gives me a ton of hope though. Especially if it becomes a rotating cast. (LoT was not a thing when I had my initial thoughts, so there's that.)

About an hour ago Scott Buck was announced as the showrunner for Iron Fist. Previously worked on Dexter and 6 Feet Under.

ETA: wiki

He also worked on one of my favorite short lived animated shows, The Oblongs!

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About an hour ago Scott Buck was announced as the showrunner for Iron Fist. Previously worked on Dexter and 6 Feet Under.

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I actually think IF makes the most sense as a cross-over character form the current slate. He's the most cinematic of the Defenders. (Heck, his character is inspired by 70s Kung Fu Films, ha).

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The Marvel TV characters exist in the film's world, they just won't ever deal with those characters. I forgot who said it, but the movies punch through walls, and the TV shows deal with the walls that got punched through. Why would Luke Cage or Jessica Jones ever meet the Avengers in the MCU?

Also, please no Defenders in the movies. There's enough bloat as there is. Let the street level heroes stay on the street and the movies keep the cosmic thing going.

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I actually agree. The fan in me wants the comic book panel of 30 heroes against Thanos...but that's fan stuff. It wouldn't work in film. I get that.

I think having a cross-over character or two would be enough, but it would have to be handled correctly.

I do like, however, that both JJ and DD deal with the aftermath of superhero interactions from a different level. That's the valuable part of sharing a universe. Does it mean we need strong visceral connections, no, just that one can inform the other. I thought the AoS to Ultron stuff was worthwhile. Someone watching Ultron with no AoS experience was fine, while I knew who the bit characters were and why they were involved. Consider it how some shows handle webisodes or small bits of content outside of the main stuff. It is necessary, but it helps add color.

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I actually think IF makes the most sense as a cross-over character form the current slate. He's the most cinematic of the Defenders.

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Natural cross over would be with Dr Strange.

I really hope they don't bow to the pressure and pick an Asian actor just because. Part of Rand's story is being an outsider, and his look is a big part of that. Besides, they'll have plenty of roles for Asian actors.

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Someone watching Ultron with no AoS experience was fine, while I knew who the bit characters were and why they were involved. Consider it how some shows handle webisodes or small bits of content outside of the main stuff. It is necessary, but it helps add color.

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I'd have no problem with something like this. If Matt Murdock shows up as someone's lawyer in the MCU, that would be fine. If we catch a glimpse of Jessica Jones NOT registering in Civil War in a montage... sure. But as full formed characters, there just isn't the space for them in the MCU and that's okay.

It makes more sense for MCU characters to show up on TV, but that won't happen due to the level of star power. But from a story standpoint, there's more place for it breath on TV.


And if Marvel cancels the Inhumans, I think its a mistake. They don't have mutants, so they need some sort of equivalent. But more importantly, their best-selling character created in the past decade is Ms. Marvel, who is Inhuman. They need to be thinking how to get her to the big screen.