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re: Avenger: AoU Reviews (**MAJOR SPOILERS**)
Posted on 5/10/15 at 9:40 pm to schexyoung
Posted on 5/10/15 at 9:40 pm to schexyoung
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Like some others have said, if MOS failed to save humans, AU went just as over-the-top in the other direction.
I thought the destruction was shown intentionally. I was under the impression it will be a driver in the civil war story line and a reason for the government to get involved. Tony stark also acknowledged it at one point in the movie at some point I think about paying for repairs.
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Posted on 5/10/15 at 9:58 pm to JasonMason
Stark made a comment about sending the Tony Stark Relief project to the town the he and the Hulk destroyed.
I had no problem with the amount of destruction, there should be sizable damage given the stakes and powers involved. I wanted to see more of Ultron fighting the Avengers and less of the Avengers saving civilians. After awhile the point was made and understood.
I had no problem with the amount of destruction, there should be sizable damage given the stakes and powers involved. I wanted to see more of Ultron fighting the Avengers and less of the Avengers saving civilians. After awhile the point was made and understood.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:53 pm to RLDSC FAN
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that may be so, but I think what they're saying is those jokes weren't very funny.
He is the first one to say that, at least, that I have seen. The general attitude I have found is that the characters joke too much. They aren't serious enough in combat.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:56 pm to VaBamaMan
well and the writers are just trying to force snarky one-liners, which was handled great in the first Avengers, but went over the top here
Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:39 pm to schexyoung
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I wanted to see more of Ultron fighting the Avengers and less of the Avengers saving civilians.
This movie went way over the top saving civillins and cleaning up after themselves that it was like they were trying to avoid ending up like MoS that they completely neglected the battle and struggle between the heroes and the villains to the point where it was almost side story. A comic book movie is supposed to have an epic struggle between the hero and the villain with an epic battle that defines the movie. Ultron's defeat was so anti climatic and wasn't really a defeat, it was just a little rough housing by the hulk and a shot from vision.
Also, We've seen the avengers fight aliens and robots, now lets see them fight real and actual humans and not being afraid to get dirty.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:42 am to Sentrius
Saw it this weekend, and I really didn't like it. I'm a huge MARVEL Universe fan, but this one was a let down.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:45 am to Sentrius
Took Mrs. Midnight to see this on Mother's Day.
I cannot say I liked it as much as the first one, but an enjoyable film. I agree they went out of their way to show the heroes saving civilians, but this is more in line with how comics work, by and large. I thought Vision was almost spot on. I also liked they way they handled his origin story. I didn't see any spoilers (other than Hulk/Black Widow romance) - I was brain dead (strangely appropriate) when they dropped the gem in, but when Thor brought the juice I said, "Okay - that's how they handle that - not bad." I turned to Mrs. Midnight (who knows almost nothing about comics, other than what she sees at the movies) - "That's Vision."
I cannot say I liked it as much as the first one, but an enjoyable film. I agree they went out of their way to show the heroes saving civilians, but this is more in line with how comics work, by and large. I thought Vision was almost spot on. I also liked they way they handled his origin story. I didn't see any spoilers (other than Hulk/Black Widow romance) - I was brain dead (strangely appropriate) when they dropped the gem in, but when Thor brought the juice I said, "Okay - that's how they handle that - not bad." I turned to Mrs. Midnight (who knows almost nothing about comics, other than what she sees at the movies) - "That's Vision."
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:27 am to VaBamaMan
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This argument is getting annoying.
quote:If I'm the first to say it, how is the argument getting annoying? Your logic is confusing.
He is the first one to say that, at least, that I have seen.
I was in the military - far from an elite fighting squad - but understand the culture. That really has nothing to do with my takeaway. This isn't a documentary of elite fighting squads and their behaviors. It's a fictional comic book movie. Throwing out excessive one liners - only to have a fraction stick - wasn't the best attribute of the movie IMO.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:42 am to drizztiger
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If I'm the first to say it, how is the argument getting annoying? Your logic is confusing.
You were the first to say the jokes weren't funny. Tons have said that they felt they joked too much. Including many who think that isn't how they should react in highly stressful situations.
I personally enjoyed the one liners, and felt they were always in tone with the moment. For example Stark saying "I'm Sorry", as the Hulk spits out a tooth, was freaking hilarious. It fit the fight as well.
I wasnt personally calling you annoying btw. Didn't mean to come across that way.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:48 am to Sentrius
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This movie went way over the top saving civillins and cleaning up after themselves that it was like they were trying to avoid ending up like MoS that they completely neglected the battle and struggle between the heroes and the villains to the point where it was almost side story
agreed
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We've seen the avengers fight aliens and robots
not to mention, tearing them apart from the inside.
An off screen killing of baron von strucker was also pretty lame.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:07 am to VaBamaMan
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I was in the military - far from an elite fighting squad - but understand the culture. That really has nothing to do with my takeaway. This isn't a documentary of elite fighting squads and their behaviors. It's a fictional comic book movie. Throwing out excessive one liners - only to have a fraction stick - wasn't the best attribute of the movie IMO.
I agree with this. The one liners seemed forced and most of them didn't work. Some did, and the ones that did should have been the only ones.
I see this as Joss Whedon doing his thing. He has a tendency to get too cutesy with the dialogue. Far too many people prop him up as a dialogue master, but the truth is, it's the same dialogue regardless of property. Buffy/Firefly/Avengers. All ensembles, and every single character is witty and on-point with a snarky comment.
In reality, groups of people might have one or two witty ones out of ten. Isn't anyone in the group serious? Cap? Most of the time. Thank God for him, otherwise I would have no one to relate to.
I say this knowing that I am an established and known stick in the mud. But this is just my opinion.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:11 am to SpqrTiger
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Isn't anyone in the group serious? Cap? Most of the time.
Thor is fairly serious, although not as much as Cap.
Now, in comparison to the Thor films themselves, he's kind of silly in the Avengers, by comparison.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:53 am to Ace Midnight
Did the Optimus Prime voice with Ultron bother anyone else?
I thought the whole Vision part was rushed and he didn't get enough screen time/attention. I did, however, like the Vision's look etc.
Overall it was pretty weak IMHO. No one gave two squirts about all the falling rubble in the last movie with the aliens killing humans, but Quicksilver had to die because the Hawk needed to save one?
I thought the whole Vision part was rushed and he didn't get enough screen time/attention. I did, however, like the Vision's look etc.
Overall it was pretty weak IMHO. No one gave two squirts about all the falling rubble in the last movie with the aliens killing humans, but Quicksilver had to die because the Hawk needed to save one?
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:53 am to abellsujr
quote:I agree. He was born pissed off. It didn't really explain why.
We got no chance to even understand why. He was created, he destroyed
Thought it was a great movie. I would've liked more dialogue like what we got in Winter Soldier. There was almost too much action.
Not complaining though. Solid Marvel movie.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:01 pm to alajones
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I agree. He was born pissed off. It didn't really explain why.
Pretty sure almost everyone would be pissed off beyond belief if they had to take in the entirety of the internet in just a few minutes. The trolling alone was probably enough for Ultron to be be all "Well frick these douchers!"
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:26 pm to SpqrTiger
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I agree with this. The one liners seemed forced and most of them didn't work. Some did, and the ones that did should have been the only ones.
I see this as Joss Whedon doing his thing. He has a tendency to get too cutesy with the dialogue. Far too many people prop him up as a dialogue master, but the truth is, it's the same dialogue regardless of property. Buffy/Firefly/Avengers. All ensembles, and every single character is witty and on-point with a snarky comment.
This. It's a big factor in how Whedon builds his chemistry. It may or may not work for some people, but it shouldn't be surprising.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:01 pm to CoachDon
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Did the Optimus Prime voice with Ultron bother anyone else?
I thought he sounded more like "sparky the robot" than OptP..
the one thing I think would have REALLY helped here would have been to get Cumberbatch for the voice of Ultron. Spader was kinda meh, and all the Starkism comedy quips really didnt help, at times it seemed like he was auditioning to take over as host on the Tonight Show while attempting to destroy humanity. The juxtaposition was a bit embarrassing.
I agree with some others here though, I thought his "master plan" would be a little more full proof, and he would have at least one more huge trick up his sleeve, and idea that a mad Vibranium-infused Iron Man isn't a little tougher was a let down.
This post was edited on 5/16/15 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:12 pm to abellsujr
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Tony Stark's character is getting ruined, IMO. He's basically turned into a whiny baby trying to get out of being a superhero.
Stark is still fighting the memory of his company being part of the military industrial complex. This is part of the main theme they are going for to take the story beyond ordinary good vs evil, and we got a big taste of it with Winter Soldier. Stark wants "peace in our time" and an end to (no need for) the Avengers, and he's a visionary so he believes it can happen.
That's why Cap is here to remind us of the other side of the equation, "Men always wind up dead when trying to avert a war", he's bringing the realism of Good vs Evil back to the forefront to remind us that you can't have good without evil, so there will ALWAYS be a need for the Avengers and of course that works well for us because if not for that, we wouldn't be seeing any more Avenger movies right?
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I loved Scarlet Witch.
They did a fair job introducing her and bringing her in, all in one movie, it worked.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:27 pm to NorthShoreTiger44
I'm just ready for thanos to fight
Posted on 5/19/15 at 7:43 pm to Jagd Tiger
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would have REALLY helped here would have been to get Cumberbatch for the voice of Ultron.
He's already a different MCU character.
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After weeks of being rumored as Marvel’s frontrunner, the studio has announced that Benedict Cumberbatch (Sherlock, Star Trek Into Darkness) will star in Doctor Strange.
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