re: Avenger: AoU Reviews (**MAJOR SPOILERS**)

On a side note, Whedon and Marvel fought over some of the storylines in the movie. The extended Hawkeye stuff was something Whedon wanted (farm scenes, etc). He also wanted Quiksilver's death, which Marvel did not want. Marvel wanted the Thor cave stuff. They even told Whedon that if he wanted the farm scenes he had to include the Thor side shite. It's unfortunate when stuff like this happens.

Whedon also wanted to add in more character depth for Quiksilver. He wanted him to be a "pussy magnet" as he put it.

ETA: Whedon also wanted more characters in it, like Captain Marvel and Spider-Man.

More ETA: Marvel wanted to verbally reference the cave scene, while Whedon wanted to actually show it. They told Whedon that if he DID include the Thor scene, they would cut the farm scene.

you sure about that? I feel like I read the interview that you are referencing but JW actually said that Marvel told him it that if he kept the Thor side quest the farm was 100% getting cut.

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and I thought we were at least going to get one good fight when he scooped Thor up

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Much more important to show them saving every citizen than a good fight.

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I'm not sure how X-Men balanced the field so well,

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because the X-Men movies don't balance it at all, everyone is just a background character to Wolverine, Xavier and Magneto (with some J-Law thrown in now). The rest are just there for fodder.

I'd rather what the Avengers have done than those bullshite X-Men movies.

Enjoyed the film. Felt like some of the dialogue was forced into trying to be funny, and it turned out to be cheesy and unnecessary in some parts of the movie.

I am just now joining the thread after finally seeing the movie. How can anyone not love this freaking movie?! It was ridiculously fun to watch. I was basically grinning the entire movie. There is not one part of this movie I did not enjoy.

Tony stark was essentially the villain in this movie. I say that because ultron is a copy of Tony's personality and ego with having Jarvis calculating ability along with precision. However, ultron was still a little underwhelming and I was hoping for more like blowing a city off the map like he did in the comics to make it a little more personal for the avengers. He was defintely more of a threat than Loki but I always felt the avengers were going to win.

Can someone explain to me how a mile wide block of land was supposed to exterminate all human life on earth? For ultron's plan to work, it would be to be at least the size of Louisiana or something like that?

I could've done without hulk and black widow storyline, unescssary and waste of air time that could've been spent going in depth on ultron.

I take it that hawkeye is done with the avengers and retired to his farm?

Scarlet Witch is awesome and she'll make a great addition and I can't get over her gorgeous smile.

I think they killed off quicksilver because he's supposed to be evil and there would be some confusion with the xmen properties. I wish he had stayed but Whedon loves to kill off characters, he's addicted to it.

Is vision supposed to be a mixture of ultron, tony and Jarvis? I thought vision reminded me too much of Superman with flying and his cape.

If there's a civil war next movie, the avengers were way too chummy at the end with cap and tony being on good terms. There's supposed to be frosty body language between them.

Last thing, the Hulk vs Hulkbuster fight was awesome and defintkey what the marvel movies has been lacking for quite a while. I think they put that in there because there's not going to be a hulk movie for a long time and hulk hasn't been challenged like that since 2008 in his movie. Hopefully he'll get another movie.

These movies are a litte bit too light, I want to see real destruction and devastation that goes beyond the light and airy tone and I want to see them fighting real humans that want to kill them instead of the usual aliens and robots. I want to see people dying and the avengers forced to make some tough choices. MoS in that regard got the thene right but the delivery was still off.

Overall, a pretty good movie and a fun ride, will see it a second time after I get done with a big project this week.

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Can someone explain to me how a mile wide block of land was supposed to exterminate all human life on earth?

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I believe he was going to get it up to speed like a asteroid. My guess anyway.


[img] I thought vision reminded me too much of Superman with flying and his cape. [/img]

They did a perfect job with the "Vis". His positions were right from the comic and perfect. Of course he was my fav Avenger growing up.

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If theydidn't the pressure would be too much. Them making jokes in combat, and other stressful situations, is a perfectly accurate description of a highly trained team of warriors who have worked together for years.

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that may be so, but I think what they're saying is those jokes weren't very funny.