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Are great rom coms completely dead?
Posted on 6/11/24 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 4:40 pm
Grew up in a great rom com era both adult and teen.
Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan, Swayze, Demi, Molly Ringwold, Julia Roberts, etc.
They you had your teens…. Jennifer Love Hewitt, Freddy Prinze, Gellar, Phillipe, Barrymore
Then moving on the next decade to McConaughy, Diaz, Reese, Sandler, Garner, Kutcher, Bullock….
Then on to Anniston, Stiller, Vaughn, The Wilson Brothers, etc.
After the later, things sort of just died. The wife and I will pick the occasional new rom com off Netflix or something and it’s more of a ‘fast paced’ and too trying too hard to be quick witted crap like everyone is hyped up on ADD drugs. I can’t remember the last good rom com movie I’ve watched.
Any recs?
Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan, Swayze, Demi, Molly Ringwold, Julia Roberts, etc.
They you had your teens…. Jennifer Love Hewitt, Freddy Prinze, Gellar, Phillipe, Barrymore
Then moving on the next decade to McConaughy, Diaz, Reese, Sandler, Garner, Kutcher, Bullock….
Then on to Anniston, Stiller, Vaughn, The Wilson Brothers, etc.
After the later, things sort of just died. The wife and I will pick the occasional new rom com off Netflix or something and it’s more of a ‘fast paced’ and too trying too hard to be quick witted crap like everyone is hyped up on ADD drugs. I can’t remember the last good rom com movie I’ve watched.
Any recs?
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 4:48 pm to BabyTac
Crazy Stupid Love and Crazy Rich Asians are perfect examples of how you could do a RomCom today (I recommend both).
I guess they figure in the Marvel era you just can’t make much off of them. Or they’re making ones exclusive geared towards the Tweens/Teens like All the Boys I’ve Loved Before.
I guess they figure in the Marvel era you just can’t make much off of them. Or they’re making ones exclusive geared towards the Tweens/Teens like All the Boys I’ve Loved Before.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 4:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
Wife and I both thought Anyone But You was good. Had some silly moments, but overall a good rom com
Posted on 6/11/24 at 4:56 pm to BabyTac
It's a few years old now but liked Always Be My Maybe when it came out on Netflix.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:01 pm to BabyTac
You can pretty much ask "Are great *insert any genre of films* dead?" these days.
Also, Hugh Grant is the goat rom com dude, you can't leave him off your list. He covers multiple rom com decades.
Also, Hugh Grant is the goat rom com dude, you can't leave him off your list. He covers multiple rom com decades.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:02 pm to BabyTac
My wife watched a movie called Upgraded on Prime this weekend while i played Ps5. It was OK.
We watched Idea of You also on Prime last week and that was good too.
And Hit Man just came out - its kind of rom com
Also Fall Guy is in the theaters and is pretty good
We watched Idea of You also on Prime last week and that was good too.
And Hit Man just came out - its kind of rom com
Also Fall Guy is in the theaters and is pretty good
Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:15 pm to BabyTac
99% of Rom coms will be direct to streaming moving forward.
There's a ton of them.
There's a ton of them.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:00 pm to 632627
I think it’s just the death of the star actor. This was where they used to break their bread.
Now it’s all about content, content, content and no quality.
Even any dating type reality show is crap because all contestants are just influencers, YouTubers, or there for their brand whatever the f*** that is. No real people exist on these things.
Now it’s all about content, content, content and no quality.
Even any dating type reality show is crap because all contestants are just influencers, YouTubers, or there for their brand whatever the f*** that is. No real people exist on these things.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:25 pm to BabyTac
Wasn’t Bros a rom com?
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:47 pm to BabyTac
They tried with that Jonah Hill/Lauren London flick but it was mediocre, and that's being generous.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:00 pm to BabyTac
The apex was the 90s, that's when they were box office.
So Hollywood produced them like they did 1930s Westerns..
Churned them out.
Haven't seen a classic one since that decade.
So Hollywood produced them like they did 1930s Westerns..
Churned them out.
Haven't seen a classic one since that decade.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:19 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Haven't seen a classic one since that decade.
A classic rom com since the 90’s? Just off the top of my head…
How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days
Love Actually
Crazy, Stupid, Love
50 First Dates
40 Year Old Virgin
Forgetting Sarah Marshall
Knocked Up
Bridget Jones Diary
And the GOAT Two Weeks Notice.
I agree that the 90’s was the best but the 2000’s were pretty good too.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:25 pm to BabyTac
It’s the same thing as all genre films. The money got squeezed up to the massive franchise tentpole films
The model used to be throw out a lot of movies, give them time in the theater to grow word of mouth and ultimately make money. The bombs will be not that big of hits and the goal is the hits to cover the misses
Now the plan is put all the eggs in 4 baskets, let everything else fight for the scraps; then give those movies 2 seconds in the theater before selling it to streaming to flip the asset
Palm Springs is my favorite modern romcom. Crazy stupid love used to be my answer there, but that movies going on 15 years old at this point
The model used to be throw out a lot of movies, give them time in the theater to grow word of mouth and ultimately make money. The bombs will be not that big of hits and the goal is the hits to cover the misses
Now the plan is put all the eggs in 4 baskets, let everything else fight for the scraps; then give those movies 2 seconds in the theater before selling it to streaming to flip the asset
Palm Springs is my favorite modern romcom. Crazy stupid love used to be my answer there, but that movies going on 15 years old at this point
Posted on 6/12/24 at 3:10 am to saintkenn
I thought Anyone But You was pretty bad in comparison to less recent comedies. Didn't care for the leads. I admit there was one funny scene though. Didn't save the overall experience for me.
I find even stuff like Just Married to be better than Anyone But You.
I find even stuff like Just Married to be better than Anyone But You.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:47 am to wildtigercat93
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The money got squeezed up to the massive franchise tentpole films
It’s even deeper about the money than that. Someone here recently posted a clip of Matt Damon talking about it. The death of DVDs has killed a revenue stream so now movies need to make more in the theaters and that’s hard for these kind of movies.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:20 am to TigerinATL
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It’s even deeper about the money than that. Someone here recently posted a clip of Matt Damon talking about it. The death of DVDs has killed a revenue stream so now movies need to make more in the theaters and that’s hard for these kind of movies.
This is a huge point that I think gets missed.
In the 80s, rentals for movies could turn a bomb into a hit or turn a hit into a massive hit and launch a franchise.
That remained with DVD rentals as well. It became very clear which movies were the reason people were going into video rental stores.
These days streaming services just lump things together; there's nothing that really prompts someone to rent a single movie anymore. If you have Disney+, for example, is it for Marvel, or classic Star Wars, or class Disney, or any of the additional items there?
The whole reason Robocop got two sequels and a reboot is because of how well the rentals did; without those it would have been relegated to an incredibly obscure Jeopardy answer.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:29 am to saintkenn
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Wife and I both thought Anyone But You was good. Had some silly moments, but overall a good rom com
Anyone but You was horrible.
This post was edited on 6/12/24 at 9:08 am
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:37 am to BabyTac
Anyone but You was a damn good movie for what it was, but there was no reason to have the couple getting married being lesbians. There were no laughs to be had from that decision, as they went out of the way to show that everyone in the fricking movie was down with that. If you are going to have a lesbian marriage, you throw in a grandpa or old uncle that doesn't get it and get a couple of laughs out of it.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:55 am to saintkenn
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Anyone But You
some of the worst writing i have ever seen in a movie. Who talks like that?
Posted on 6/12/24 at 10:05 am to BabyTac
Studios straight up don’t make mid budget films anymore. This has killed multiple genres including rom coms and ensemble comedies.
Studios aren’t content with investing $40-60 million to make $80-120 million. They want to invest $400 million to make a billion. This has caused all of the resources to get tied up in big tent pole franchises and everything else shifted ti low budget streaming movies which have about as much quality as a cw show, hallmark christmas schoock, or made for tv Disney channel movie. The writing on most of these Netflix rom coms is atrocious, and the casts can barely act.
The only thing that will fix this is studios continuing to swing and miss on these big budget leviathans. In the 1960’s, studios bankrupted themselves with expensive historical epics and musicals. This led to the rebirth of storytelling cinema in the 1970’s as story and characters took the spotlight away from spectacle because they had to work with smaller budgets. Hopefully the death of these terrible tent poles will usher in another filmmaking era like the 70’s where substance over spectacle brings back the mid budget comedies.
Studios aren’t content with investing $40-60 million to make $80-120 million. They want to invest $400 million to make a billion. This has caused all of the resources to get tied up in big tent pole franchises and everything else shifted ti low budget streaming movies which have about as much quality as a cw show, hallmark christmas schoock, or made for tv Disney channel movie. The writing on most of these Netflix rom coms is atrocious, and the casts can barely act.
The only thing that will fix this is studios continuing to swing and miss on these big budget leviathans. In the 1960’s, studios bankrupted themselves with expensive historical epics and musicals. This led to the rebirth of storytelling cinema in the 1970’s as story and characters took the spotlight away from spectacle because they had to work with smaller budgets. Hopefully the death of these terrible tent poles will usher in another filmmaking era like the 70’s where substance over spectacle brings back the mid budget comedies.
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