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re: Any thoughts on Netflix "Who Killed JonBenet"?

Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:26 pm to
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The ransom note 100% was written by Patsy

Yet multiple experts, both locally and federally, said the handwriting didn’t match either John or Patsy.
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:35 pm to
Let’s be honest, the Boulder police screwed the pooch from the very beginning. Not treating the house as a crime scene right away was an enormous mistake. Secondly, why didn’t the police look for the point of entry when they arrived? If the Ramseys said all the doors were locked, how did the kidnapper get into the house? If the police had conducted a proper search, they would have gone to the basement to check for possible points of entry. In doing so, they would have found her body almost immediately. It’s ridiculous that her body wasn’t discovered until seven hours after the police arrived. Furthermore, if the police had found the body instead of John Ramsey, a lot of physical evidence might not have been destroyed when he removed the duct tape from her mouth and carried her upstairs.
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
6767 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:40 am to
Bill McRenolds with hep from Gary Olivia….mic drop
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:42 am to
I think it was....some Puerto Rican guy!!!!!





Posted by Inside the Eye
Member since Sep 2018
287 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:47 am to
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Let’s be honest, the Boulder police screwed the pooch from the very beginning.

This is the biggest reason that this case has never been solved IMO.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17436 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:47 am to
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And as much as I lean towards something happening with Burke, I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe he wouldn't have said something like "we got in a fight" or "she stole my toy" during numerous police interviews alone as a 9 year old.


A nine year old is certainly old enough to conceal things if they don't want themselves or others to get in trouble.

During the interviews, he was asked to draw a family picture, and he omitted JonBenet. When presented with a photo of the bowl of pineapple, he got quieter and more fidgety.

Now, neither of those things are necessarily indicators of guilt; it seems like he was a weird kid. However, I believe it's highly possible he at least heard or saw something that night. If he suspected one or both parents of anything, even if he wasn't sure, I could see him keeping his mouth shut.

Overall, I agree with you though. There are so many bizarre factors in this case pulling opinions in different directions, I doubt it will ever be solved.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37147 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 1:35 pm to
Isn’t it strange if it was an outside intruder to break into the house.. only kill the little girl and not take anything. Except write a long random random letter for a girl you’d killed?

It’s so random . Like why would anyone do that?

Why not kill everyone in the house then? If you’ve killed the innocent little girl what’s the difference
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Inside the Eye
Member since Sep 2018
287 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 1:42 pm to
I can't get past the ransom note. It just seems completely out of place and makes no sense whatsoever.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7190 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 2:49 pm to
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But what about the unknown male DNA found on her underwear? That’s another curveball that I can’t explain other than a third party (which is consistent with the other little girl that was home invaded and almost SA’d until thankfully the mother pepper sprayed the perp)

It's not even clear that DNA is from one person instead of a combination of fragments from multiple people. Drawing a conclusion from that DNA result is probably not possible.
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
645 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 3:08 pm to
So many things are hard to explain about this case.

One that stands out to me: If you are the father of a child that a note your wife finds says the child has been kidnapped, how on earth did he not search the entire house several times looking for her? I know if my child is missing I would frantically look through the house many times.

It just makes no sense that John had not looked in that room earlier.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17452 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 3:47 pm to
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I can't get past the ransom note. It just seems completely out of place and makes no sense whatsoever.


It's from the mother's own notebook.

She definitely had a hand in writing it.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3721 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Isn’t it strange if it was an outside intruder to break into the house.. only kill the little girl and not take anything. Except write a long random random letter for a girl you’d killed?


Have only seen bits and pieces of the documentary and don't know a whole lot of details, but isn't the dad's theory that an intruder hid in the house for several hours while the family was at another party?

Could the note have been written during that period and then things went sideways?
Posted by TTU97NI
Celina, TX
Member since Mar 2017
1274 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:40 pm to
convinced the brother did it and the family covered it up with that mess
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59166 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 9:39 pm to
I think I've settled on the most likely scenario being John Ramsey had been molesting his daughter over a period of time, but in a weird grooming kind of way. Probably why he kept the weird sexual type pagaent type photos of her in his office and stuff. He was afraid their secret was going to get out and his only option was to murder her before she slipped and told everyone. So he staged and planned the whole thing. Then he got lucky the PD fricked up big time with the crime scene, etc.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:27 pm to
If there never was a written ransom note, I could possibly believe the intruder theory.
But, that ransom note screams that the Ramseys had something to do with it
Posted by financetiger
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 11:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 8:14 am
Posted by financetiger
Member since Feb 2008
1844 posts
Posted on 11/28/24 at 11:07 pm to
Watch the documentary. It was not the Ramsey’s even though the media fed us this. That is all discussed in the documentary. The guy admitted to it and to being in the home from 5 pm until they came home around 10 pm. He said he walked around and went in the parents room. The bonus check was laying out in view bc he had just received it. The killer had to have seen it and that stuck in his mind for the letter. He even talks about why he wrote the letter. They let him go bc of the DNA not matching but it was botched. So it’s not going to match.
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
645 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 9:59 am to
I guess you are talking about the Karr fellow. Other than him confessing what proof is there that he did it? His dna didn't match. He should be able to provide details to the police that only the killer would know. Where was he living when the crime was committed? He is obviously a pedophile but that doesn't mean he is a killer. I am not totally sold on him being her killer. We need more info than what the documentary gave us.

After watching this doc it does seem the parents and Burke are innocent. Smits sure thought so and he was by all accounts a very good homicide investigator.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 10:02 am
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59166 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:22 am to
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I guess you are talking about the Karr fellow. Other than him confessing what proof is there that he did it?

I always took his false confession as just a grab at attention.

He is now a trans women so obviously has some issues.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15171 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 4:28 pm to
Weird he never refers to her as his daughter just a small child. How can anyone do this to a child instead of my daughter? Bizarre his reference.
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