re: Anne Hathaway cast in The Dark Knight Rises.....

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We don't even know what Catwoman is going to be doing in this movie. How can we be sure that this is miscasting?

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if Selina Kyle is more than a side character/love interest then:

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And if those people who were perplexed by the Ledger choice were wrong? So what. They probably didn't have a grasp for what Nolan set up with Begins, or what a good actor is. Ledger was the perfect choice.

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Yeah, my problem with Ledger initially was I had a completely Joker in mind, more like Hamill's Joker. Complete with the deadly goofy gadgets. I completely got the tone off of the series, and Ledger at second glance was the man for the job.

But this isn't about the casting, this is about the character in and of itself. If it is anymore than a love interest, then Catwoman will likely bring down the film in quality. You can't just have continual buildup from 2 films with very threatening and competent antagonists, and just have Catwoman as the main one. If anything, the stakes should be at their highest on the final installment of a trilogy. Catwoman doesn't offer this, and while Bane may offer this to Batman himself, Bane is never a threat to Gotham at large. Although I am fine with Bane, there needs to be a more threatening antagonist that can put Gotham in peril.

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I thought we had a thread about this a little while back? Maybe not.

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Not. That was a bad rumor. That dude that started that thread post crappy rumors all the time.

And some people can be neither. Anne Hathaway is a good actress and because we know so little about what the story is she might just be the perfect choice to play the role. However, since I don't know enough about the plot I am not going to pass any judgments either for or against the decision to include Catwoman and the decision to put Anne Hathaway into that role.

However, Christopher Nolan seems to have a firm grasp on the world of Batman and also seems to be in complete control of the creative process for bringing his vision to the big screen. The man has made two VERY GOOD Batman movies thus far and I for one believe he wouldn't have agreed to write/direct a third movie if he didn't feel the story was worthy to put to screen.

I'm going to trust Christopher Nolan until he gives me a reason not to.

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And some people can be neither. Anne Hathaway is a good actress and because we know so little about what the story is she might just be the perfect choice to play the role. However, since I don't know enough about the plot I am not going to pass any judgments either for or against the decision to include Catwoman and the decision to put Anne Hathaway into that role.

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I have 0 problem with Anne Hathaway. It's great if she's in the movie to be a love interest. That workls. It's Catwoman that everyone has the issue with.

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However, Christopher Nolan seems to have a firm grasp on the world of Batman and also seems to be in complete control of the creative process for bringing his vision to the big screen. The man has made two VERY GOOD Batman movies thus far and I for one believe he wouldn't have agreed to write/direct a third movie if he didn't feel the story was worthy to put to screen.

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But IF Catwoman is in the movie, that doesn't seem Nolan-esque at all.

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I'm going to trust Christopher Nolan until he gives me a reason not to.

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I trust Christopher Nolan. I don't trust movie studios and producers. This seems like a "Cast a pretty girl and use Catwoman because we need to empower woman" thinking. A jewel thief doesn't fit Nolan's world at all. That would be my argument. Hence the "Venom" reference.

I don't think that the studio is forcing any of these characters into the next film. I think WB has learned not to intervene in any of Nolan's writing or ideas. That said, I think that it's interesting that these two characters were selected. With all the speculation over who would play what, and who the new protagonists would be, Selina Kyle was one of the first characters Nolan was vehemently against. Now that it has been announced that Selina Kyle will be in the movie indicates that the earlier comments from Nolan about Catwoman could have been a smokescreen all along. Tom Hardy as Bane isn't a choice anyone was predicting when he was signed back in October. As Freaux said, there were a lot of people scratching their heads over Heath playing the Joker and look how that turned out. If anything, Nolan has proven himself with his scripts and his films to date. No one knows how much either of these characters will figure into the final film. Let Nolan do his thing and enjoy the final product.

It seems very interesting that Warner Bros never said "catwoman" they said Selina Kyle. Im still hoping we see Talia as the main female villain

I'm somewhat glad that Talia al Ghul isn't one of the villains. It shows that Nolan has seemingly more creative juice inside of him as he's not settling for the simple revenge plot that would have been offered by putting Talia into the third movie.

I didn't click the link but I hope for all our sakes it was from bleacher report

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I'm somewhat glad that Talia al Ghul isn't one of the villains. It shows that Nolan has seemingly more creative juice inside of him as he's not settling for the simple revenge plot that would have been offered by putting Talia into the third movie.

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I understood your point before, but now you're championing Catwoman because everyone else is against it. This statement is ridiculous.

Talia would have been the BEST villain for this outside of maybe Strange and Black Mask.

She has a better story than Catwoman, she would provide more avenues than just jewel thief. She's flat out more interesting, hell even Batman thinks so seeing as he married and sired a child with her. /shrug