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Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:02 am to Zap Rowsdower
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Old Major is modeled after Karl Marx with a little Lenin thrown in. The other characters are modeled after people in early 1900s Russia from Nicholas II to Stalin, to the Russian citizens who fled to other countries after the revolution. It is 100% about communism
Communism is the vehicle, yes, but not the destination. Capitalism is blamed just as much in the novel (represented by the bad farmers). Orwell even wrote an essay called "Why I Write" in which he said that every word he writes is against totalitarianism. He was a democratic socialist, so he blamed both ends of the spectrum equally. He was, however, specifically anti-Stalinist.
The CIA pushed subtle changes to the story. Old Major, for instance, is modeled after Churchill in the film. His overthrow represents the rise of communist sympathies in Western Europe. The ending of the film is significantly different. The book puts the capitalist farmers and the communist pigs under the same totalitarian umbrella (playing, and cheating at, cards). The CIA added the animal revolt at the end of the film showing that communist leaders should be overthrown by the people that they duped. They also made sure to differentiate between the good farmers (capitalists) and bad farmers (dictators).
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:06 am to Locoguan0
1984 is anti totalitarian
Animal Farm is a metaphor for the Soviet Union and Russian (Communist) revolution and the horrors it wrought
Animal Farm is a metaphor for the Soviet Union and Russian (Communist) revolution and the horrors it wrought
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:22 pm to HeadCall
quote:its more against Stalin than communism
It’s 100% about communism
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:40 pm to Corinthians420
Man this is going to suck. Subversion of the original story to meet a political agenda; DEI good. Ironic.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:42 pm to Corinthians420
Man hearing Seth Rogen voice a character from on a book that's an allegory for the Russian revolution and Stalinism is truly something else
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:26 pm to rebelrouser
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rebelrouser
Man this is going to suck. Subversion of the original story to meet a political agenda; DEI good. Ironic.
Haha you sound so defeated.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:31 pm to rebelrouser
quote:Such diverse casting
Subversion of the original story to meet a political agenda; DEI good. Ironic
dude is so shook he's seeing DEI ghosts on the field. 
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:53 pm to Locoguan0
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The book is about totalitarianism. The CIA financed animated film is about communism.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:03 pm to Corinthians420
FWIW sounds like the movie has been dumbed down to be a bad kids movie.
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:08 pm to dawgfan24348
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Here, the humans are unilaterally “greedy and cruel” carnivores who represent the evils of capitalism
There it is. They can't help themselves.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:11 pm to AkronTiger
Laugh but that's pretty much what happened. The CIA financed the 1954 movie and altered the ending from the book in order to align with more anti communism.
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This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:12 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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They can't help themselves.
You are aware that Orwell was a democratic socialist right? He hated the Soviets but was absolutely not a fan of capitalism
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:24 pm to dawgfan24348
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You are aware that Orwell was a democratic socialist right? He hated the Soviets but was absolutely not a fan of capitalism
They will not have his perspective but a modern spin on their beliefs.
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(i.e., money). Wealthy Freida Pilkington (Glenn Close) drives a Tesla-style Cybertruck
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:39 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Being rich doesn't mean it's just going to slam capitalism. But from the few reviews I've seen it looks like it won't even be a good movie. At best a watered down take on the book because for some reason it needed to be made for kids
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:51 pm to Corinthians420
Let's make an allegory about the Russian revolution & communism a COMEDY, right? That looks totally book accurate!
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:02 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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SouthEasternKaiju
Ah hell here we go
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Let's make an allegory about the Russian revolution & communism a COMEDY, right? That looks totally book accurate!
Goddamnt are we agreeing on something? Sort of?
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:08 pm to dawgfan24348
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Goddamnt are we agreeing on something? Sort of?
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