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re: Am I missing something with the original Halloween?

Posted on 10/15/18 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 4:00 pm to
Not sure about Myers but at one point the end of Freddy vs Jason was supposed to be both of them chained up by Pinhead saying “Gentlemen, do we have a problem?”

This got thrown out as both a non-ending as well as due to a lack of rights to the Hellraiser franchise.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 4:00 pm to
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Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 4:37 pm to
Freddy probably wouldn't be able to hang. Jason would be dull to everything maybe flinch at the initial stab? He doesn't really have a mind to work with unless they do things to his mom's corpse.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 5:42 pm to
Holy wall of text Batman
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 5:55 pm to
It was the late 70’s - early 80’s

Movies always set up for sequels if it was a slasher.

And the slasher implicitly competed with other slashers.

Michael was trying to one-up Jason

Jason GOAT
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 7:36 pm to
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Michael was trying to one-up Jason

Jason GOAT


Freddy is the GOAT.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

And the slasher implicitly competed with other slashers.

Michael was trying to one-up Jason


Jason didn't exist yet
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:55 pm to
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Are you really this stupid? Watch it at home. Turn out the lights, don’t start talking about your day or doing dishes Moron


Or just go back to 1978, and watch it in any theater. They'll all be devoid of today's pr*cks that can't behave in public.

Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

Jason GOAT
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Am I missing something with the original Halloween?
No. It's not what you're missing, it's what you've seen. You've seen 40 years of slasher movies that came to be because of this movie. It's been done so many times that watching this now may not have as much of an impact.

I was in I think 3rd grade when I saw this for the first time. It was the first slasher movie I had ever seen. I had nightmares about the mask for awhile after I saw it. So it had a big impact on me.

At the time this was made, there wasn't anything like it out there. There was Psycho and Black Christmas, but this was the first time a true iconic killer was created. Leatherface is somewhat iconic, but TCM was a different kind of movie. Michael Myers was an unstoppable killing force that would not go down. He looked awesome with his white mask. He had immense strength and hid in the shadows. It was the first time a killer this cool had been created. He became iconic. And it was imitated to death after.

On top of this, it had a Halloween setting which had a lot of appeal. The target audience was teenagers and they related to it. A bad arse killer who escaped from a mental institution was going around killing baby sitters on Halloween lol. What's not to love with this movie?

So yeah, watching it now, it doesn't have that kind of impact. You'd have to erase 40 years of movie viewing for that to even come close to being possible. But it damn sure was something new and exciting at the time.
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 6:14 am
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
2008 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:34 am to
Halloween has a lot of things going for it. Great setting (middle upper class neighborhood during Halloween), believable (yet cliche) characters, small cast (works to the films advantage), and the most important factor...the tension build up and the audience knowing Michael is out there yet many times through out are just as clueless as the Laurie about where Michael could be hiding...the lighting inside the houses is amazing...so many shadows he could pop out at anytime from really keeps you on the edge of your seat.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:52 am to
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Michael was trying to one-up Jason


Are you retarded?
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 3:01 am to
The musical score. I watched the documentary about the making of this movie and ithe first run for an audience of critics was a chorus of bad reviews. It was shown without the music. Carpenter added the intense piano/ synthesizer as a last ditch effort to win approval and showed it again to the same audience. Everyone who lambasted it after the music less run claimed it scared the shite out of them after the score was added. It opened in a small amount of theatres and word of mouth made it a box office hit in short order. More than anything, the music score makes it the greatest of all time.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 9:57 am to
There is a great podcast right now from the people at The Ringer called Halloween Unmasked. Episode 5 of 8 just dropped yesterday, but it dives deep into what makes the movie so great, the cliches that have come from it, America when it came out, the sequels and other movies that sprouted from it.

I highly recommend it.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:01 am to
I havent watched Halloween in a few years, but because of the podcast, I decided to sit down and watch it last night with my girlfriend. She had never seen it, and she got up about a hour into it and said it was absolutely terrible. She also hated The Witch and It Follows, so no one should listen to her opinion on horror movies. She cant understand a slow burn or how music and shots are framed to create tension. No demons are jumping out and scaring you, so she cant comprehend something like that being scary.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118922 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:40 am to
Jamie lee dropping the knives multiple times was dumb, I'm not sure anyone would do that in real life after being attacked, but since it's a teenage girl, it does make sense.

The last scene where Michael gets up after being stabbed by her, and you see her kind of groggy and stepping forward was just poor acting that should have been reshot.

You have to see it for what it represents, evil that wouldn't die. Not realistic, but fun.
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
2008 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:42 am to
My biggest complaint is how they had multiple instances of people sneaking up on each other as basically a greeting
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:07 pm to
I went to the Meyers house in Pasadena as well as the giant hedges on a recent trip. Downtown area still looks the same for the most part.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 10:53 pm to
Holy block of text, Batman.
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