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re: Alien TV series to “focus on the inequalities of this world”

Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:53 pm to
They’re just going to ruin everything at this point. They’re about to ruin Lord of the Rings as well if the Tolkien Summit is anything to go by:


Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:59 pm to
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It's Noah Hawley. It's gonna be great.


So the guy changing the formula in Fargo, then to be a societal critique of racism and the cops not being the heroes?

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There’s always a cop at the center of a Fargo story, whether it’s the Coen brothers’ original 1996 movie or the previous three chapters of showrunner Noah Hawley’s midwestern gothic crime series. But not for the story’s last go-round. This time, the anti-hero may have been Chris Rock’s morally conflicted gangster Loy Cannon, but the hero of the story was a young girl named Ethelrida, played by E’myri Crutchfield, whose very existence was against the law. She plays a mixed-race teenage girl in 1950 Kansas City;

Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:01 pm to
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“So you will see what happens when the inequality we’re struggling with now isn’t resolved.”


If we don't stop racial inequality, we will all be devoured by a creature which was designed by our creator to wipe out humanity. Sounds legit
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:04 pm to
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So the guy changing the formula in Fargo, then to be a societal critique of racism and the cops not being the heroes?

That season of Fargo was great. Jason Schwartzman, Oliphant, Jessie Buckley, and Jack Huston gave great performances. If you couldn't watch it because it had bad cops and two good black people out of thirty, that's on you.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:05 pm to
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They’re just going to ruin everything at this point. They’re about to ruin Lord of the Rings as well if the Tolkien Summit is anything to go by:


I also saw some recent articles implying that Frodo and Sam were indeed gay for each other.

They do realize who wrote Lord of The Rings right? JRR Tolkien was like the most Catholic dude who ever existed. I'm glad he focused on language and writing, because LOTR might be cancelled if he ever publicly stated his beliefs on homosexuality.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:08 pm to
I don’t watch Fargo or even know what it’s about except that apparently all the other seasons the cop was a good guy. I’m being objective and providing evidence as to his intentions
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:09 pm to
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That season of Fargo was great. Jason Schwartzman, Oliphant, Jessie Buckley, and Jack Huston gave great performances. If you couldn't watch it because it had bad cops and two good black people out of thirty, that's on you.


It was a good season of television, but it never felt like Fargo. What the first few seasons did so well was capture the mood and intensity of the movie. There was a feeling of stress/tension in nearly every scene of the movie, which was reflected really well by the first few seasons of the show. This was just lacking from the Chris Rock season.

So the criticism is warranted in that it never felt like I was watching something in the Fargo universe. It was still good television though
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:27 pm to
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I don’t watch Fargo or even know what it’s about except that apparently all the other seasons the cop was a good guy. I’m being objective and providing evidence as to his intentions

Oliphant plays a good cop. It wasn't a case of good minorities vs bad cops. It's the Italian mob pushing out the Irish mob and then battling the Black mob. The good and bad cops are intertwined in the battle.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:52 pm to
Normally a show starts out entertaining and THEN loses viewers when it goes woke. They’re just coming out guns blazing and guaranteeing no one will watch.


Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:55 pm to
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If we as a society can’t figure out how to prop each other up and spread the wealth


wealth is not a pizza or a finite resource.

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this just reads like one of those things where the director/showrunner talks about how the movie/show has this deeper meaning and then we watch the show and it really isn't there at all unless you really reach for it


making a political statement is not easy, when done well you can get great art like The Wire even if the message is from a point of view the viewer may disagree with. but more often than not when someone is throwing around the current hot buzz phrases it winds up being drek like Picard or Star Trek Discovery
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 4:57 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 6:08 pm to
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I don’t watch Fargo or even know what it’s about


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I’m being objective and providing evidence as to his intentions



nah, you're being completely blind with no context.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24937 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 6:51 pm to
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nah, you're being completely blind with no context.

go away brainlet. Saintsreport is calling
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:06 pm to
Got me.
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
2836 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:14 pm to
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a story revolving around corporations abusing their workers for gain and ultimately meeting their demise is a pretty basic story that has been done 1000 times and no one ever gets mad about it


I feel like this is just a very common thing in many of the Prometheus/Alien/AVP movies
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:26 pm to
After Alien 4 and the two prequels, I don't really give a shite where they take it.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:22 pm to
Then I will focus. . .on other shows
Posted by AURaptor
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Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/2/21 at 6:19 am to
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So you will see what happens when the inequality we’re struggling with now isn’t resolved


What a steaming load of garbage. Pretentious virtue signaling nonsense. The word “ inequity“ wasn’t even used in 1979 when the first movie came out. It is a social justice construct that they are trying to shove down the throats of Sci fi fans.

Literally no one wants to see far left dystopian fanfic dressed up as something it isn’t
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 6:21 am
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9755 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 6:24 am to
Great. The Alien franchise people are clueless as to what people want from them.

Here’s a clue: go back and watch James Cameron’s Aliens. That. That is what we want from you.

No one gives a shite about inequality in an Alien movie.

Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/2/21 at 6:24 am to
For starters, the franchise has already worn itself out. So void of ideas they are now simply re-telling the original story but from a social justice warrior perspective. Secondly, Avatar did the very same thing. But it didn’t need to run back over its own creation and try to virtue signal to the audience. It did enough of that originally when it stole the storyline from Pocahontas.
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 6:26 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38599 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 8:05 am to
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No one gives a shite about inequality in an Alien movie.

Yaphet Koto’s character sure bitched about it in Alien. Then you had the prejudice and xenophobia towards androids in Aliens. It’s not the main focus, but whether it’s the peons in the machine room or the disposable grunts and androids, the franchise has had subplots dealing with inequality.
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