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A PR firm has been manipulating the Rotten Tomato scores of movies by paying critics

Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:57 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:57 am
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In 2018, a movie-publicity company called Bunker 15 took on a new project: Ophelia, a feminist retelling of Hamlet starring Daisy Ridley. Critics who had seen early screenings had published 13 reviews, seven of them negative, which translated to a score of 46 percent on the all-important aggregation site Rotten Tomatoes — a disappointing outcome for a film with prestige aspirations and no domestic distributor.

But just because the “Tomatometer” says a title is “rotten” — scoring below 60 percent — it doesn’t need to stay that way. Bunker 15 went to work. While most film-PR companies aim to get the attention of critics from top publications, Bunker 15 takes a more bottom-up approach, recruiting obscure, often self-published critics who are nevertheless part of the pool tracked by Rotten Tomatoes. In another break from standard practice, several critics say, Bunker 15 pays them $50 or more for each review. (These payments are not typically disclosed, and Rotten Tomatoes says it prohibits “reviewing based on a financial incentive.”)

In October of that year, an employee of the company emailed a prospective reviewer about Ophelia: “It’s a Sundance film and the feeling is that it’s been treated a bit harshly by some critics (I’m sure sky-high expectations were the culprit) so the teams involved feel like it would benefit from more input from different critics.”

“More input from different critics” is not very subtle code, and the prospective critic wrote back to ask what would happen if he hated the film. The Bunker 15 employee replied that of course journalists are free to write whatever they like but that “super nice ones (and there are more critics like this than I expected)” often agreed not to publish bad reviews on their usual websites but to instead quarantine them on “a smaller blog that RT never sees. I think it’s a very cool thing to do.” If done right, the trick would help ensure that Rotten Tomatoes logged positive reviews but not negative ones.


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The Ophelia affair is a useful microcosm for understanding how Rotten Tomatoes, which turned 25 in August, has come to function. The site was conceived in the early days of the web as a Hot or Not for movies. Now, it can make or break them — with implications for how films are perceived, released, marketed, and possibly even green-lit. The Tomatometer may be the most important metric in entertainment, yet it’s also erratic, reductive, and easily hacked.

“The studios didn’t invent Rotten Tomatoes, and most of them don’t like it,” says the filmmaker Paul Schrader. “But the system is broken. Audiences are dumber. Normal people don’t go through reviews like they used to. Rotten Tomatoes is something the studios can game. So they do.”


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This is probably because Rotten Tomatoes — with help from Yelp, Goodreads, and countless other review aggregators — has desensitized us to the opinions of individual critics. Once upon a time, Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert turned the no-budget documentary Hoop Dreams into a phenomenon using only their thumbs. But critical power like that has been replaced by the collective voice of the masses. A third of U.S. adults say they check Rotten Tomatoes before going to the multiplex, and while movie ads used to tout the blurbage of Jeffrey Lyons and Peter Travers, now they’re more likely to boast that a film has been “Certified Fresh.”

To filmmakers across the taste spectrum, Rotten Tomatoes is a scourge. Martin Scorsese says it reduces the director “to a content manufacturer and the viewer to an unadventurous consumer.” Brett Ratner has called it “the destruction of our business.” But insiders acknowledge that it has become a crucial arbiter. Publicists say their jobs revolve around the site. “In the last ten years,” says one, “it’s become much more important as so many of the most trusted critics have retired without replacements.” Studios are so scared of what the Tomatometer might say that some work with a company called Screen Engine/ASI, which attempts to forecast scores.



good read
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:00 am to
Everything is rigged. This, economic stats, elections, etc. Nothing can be believed.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38447 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:02 am to
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Everything is rigged. This, economic stats, elections, etc. Nothing can be believed.
...says the PR firm hired to discredit TigerDroppings.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:03 am to
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Audiences are dumber. Normal people don’t go through reviews like they used to.


I mean, did people actually read Ebert & Siskel reviews back in the day, or did they just skip to the star rating at the end?
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:11 am to
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PR firm has been manipulating the Rotten Tomato scores of movies by paying critics



Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
Member since Jun 2018
1961 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:16 am to
Rotten Tomatoes has been owned by the same companies that make the entertainment for at least the past 10 years.

None of this is surprising.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40369 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:41 am to
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I mean, did people actually read Ebert & Siskel reviews back in the day, or did they just skip to the star rating at the end?



I read Ebert's reviews more now than i did when i watched their show.

They weren't immune to this either. Ebert was boys with a lot of Hollywood elite and would put kid's gloves on for their movies. I venture to guess this goes for a number of today's respected critics who don't want to piss off their next podcast guest.


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But critical power like that has been replaced by the collective voice of the masses. A third of U.S. adults say they check Rotten Tomatoes before going to the multiplex

that is lower than i would have expected. I certainly don't look at it as much anymore than i did 5-10 years ago.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80695 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:43 am to
Shocked. SHOCKED I SAY!

Not shocked.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64370 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:50 am to
It's been obvious for quite awhile now. They have to tread the line between outright rigging the ratings and letting people have input. In some cases they've been outright rigged.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
13279 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:51 am to
This has been so obvious for so long.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Rotten Tomatoes has been owned by the same companies that make the entertainment for at least the past 10 years


WB and NBC.
if i owned RT and every one of my superhero movies got panned i’d be pissed.
Posted by Death Before Disco
Member since Dec 2009
6459 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:43 pm to
Wow. I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:44 pm to



Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49093 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:56 pm to
This reminds of a documentary I watched about how this used to happen a lot in country music with some record/promotional company in Nashville.

I can't remember the name of it, though.
Posted by pevetohead
lurking behind sonic
Member since Apr 2017
3532 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:00 pm to
It’s obvious. Look at every piece of shite Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm of the past 6 years and then look at the score. I rest my case.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60102 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:03 pm to
Love that gif
Posted by Audioman213
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24836 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:33 pm to
Lol no fricking shite
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24216 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:39 pm to
Disney definitely doing work on those MCU and Star Wars scores
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8908 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:03 pm to
i'm sure they'll figure out a way to frick with the audience score numbers soon too.
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