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2001: a space odyssey, about the monoliths
Posted on 11/22/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 11/22/20 at 12:47 pm
this classic was on TCM last night and as many times as I’ve seen it, it still leaves me with new questions. I’ve not read the Clarke books so maybe this is addressed...
the idea is that the advanced beings place the monoliths among primitive life forms they deem likely to develop intelligence, ie: the monolith on earth nudging the hominids to use tools. In 2010 it’s implied that the monoliths are used to transform Jupiter into a small sun so that life on Europa can advance
so why is there a monolith buried on the moon?
the monolith on earth (wherever it is) should have been sufficient and it seems more likely that it would have been discovered before the one on the moon, right?
the idea is that the advanced beings place the monoliths among primitive life forms they deem likely to develop intelligence, ie: the monolith on earth nudging the hominids to use tools. In 2010 it’s implied that the monoliths are used to transform Jupiter into a small sun so that life on Europa can advance
so why is there a monolith buried on the moon?
the monolith on earth (wherever it is) should have been sufficient and it seems more likely that it would have been discovered before the one on the moon, right?
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Posted on 11/22/20 at 12:51 pm to cgrand
The monolith on the moon inspired humans to keep exploring. It was the message from the beyond that said to them “we are out there. Keep looking.”
Posted on 11/22/20 at 12:51 pm to cgrand
I love the creepy feeling
Like on alien when they go on ship and see engineer
Like on alien when they go on ship and see engineer
Posted on 11/22/20 at 12:52 pm to cgrand
The one on the moon was the next stepping stone. Or thats how I took it.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 12:55 pm to SpqrTiger
I guess but if they could assemble and execute a manned mission to Jupiter after the discovery then they could have done it beforehand. To my understanding no particular additional knowledge was gained on the moon
They already knew Jupiter was “out there” and exploration of the solar system doesn’t seem to need any extra motivation
They already knew Jupiter was “out there” and exploration of the solar system doesn’t seem to need any extra motivation
Posted on 11/22/20 at 12:58 pm to cgrand
maybe it’s as simple as “if it’s on the moon than humans couldn’t possibly have placed it there”?
Posted on 11/22/20 at 1:06 pm to SpqrTiger
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The monolith on the moon inspired humans to keep exploring.
this
Posted on 11/22/20 at 1:33 pm to Freauxzen
It's like a benchmark.
"When you can reach the moon, you will get another jump in advancement"
Then the same with Jupiter.
And no fricking clue after that
"When you can reach the moon, you will get another jump in advancement"
Then the same with Jupiter.
And no fricking clue after that
Posted on 11/22/20 at 2:15 pm to cgrand
According to Buzz Aldrin there is a Monolith on one of the moons of Mars that is sending radio frequencies to space
Posted on 11/22/20 at 3:28 pm to pevetohead
According to Room 237, the Monolith on the Moon in the movie is a fake.
This post was edited on 11/22/20 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 11/22/20 at 3:53 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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The one on the moon was the next stepping stone. Or thats how I took it.
This. It was buried meters under the lunar surface. Only detected due to magnetic waves from the lunar Monolith.
It is activated once sunlight hits its surface. Sending a signal to the next Monolith who will begin working to develop intelligent life at the second most likely place in the solar system.
That is what the monoliths do, help to create more intelligent life accross the universe.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:46 pm to cgrand
The books explain pretty much everything Kubrick left ambiguous. Essentially the monolith on the Moon is an alarm system to alert the monoliths that humanity has attained the ability to travel through space.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:48 pm to Philzilla2k
You shouldn't use the book to explain the movie. They are each their own entity.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:57 pm to Brosef Stalin
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You shouldn't use the book to explain the movie. They are each their own entity.
Shut the frick up, cgrand brought up the books. I didn’t give up any spoilers.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 4:58 pm to Philzilla2k
I'm just saying they're separate things. You don't need to be an a-hole. Also go frick yourself.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 5:55 pm to Philzilla2k
Alert whom?
Posted on 11/22/20 at 6:35 pm to rebelrouser
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Alert whom?
The Monolith at Jupiter.
2nd crack at life in our solar system. Europa.
2010 gets into this, and has a pretty damn good cast.
Overall good, overlooked movie.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 8:03 pm to Brosef Stalin
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You shouldn't use the book to explain the movie. They are each their own entity.
Do we need a Hodor thread for 2001 discussions now?
Pretty much every article or review I've read to make sense of the movie references the book. The appearance of the monoliths creates a parallel between the advent of tools and the advent of the space age. Between the ape throwing the bone in the air and modern man sending rockets into the air. Something like that. And the baby at the end symbolized humanity in the infancy of a new era, like the apes discovering tools.
I've also read that the monolith on the moon was a monitor or alarm for our alien overlords to know that we'd taken that next leap in evolution.
Posted on 11/22/20 at 8:16 pm to cgrand
The monoliths are monitors for life here. Would be assumed they (whoever they are) sent them all over.
When the early man rises up and uses tools, for good and bad, a signal goes out. When man leaves the bonds of earth and finds the monolith on the moon, a signal is sent letting them know we are space faring. When we get between Jupiter and Saturn, a signal is sent and let’s them know we are inter solar and soon to be interstellar. And, Bowman is taken in and transformed into something else and used to issue warnings.
What “they” will do with this info may not be good.
When the early man rises up and uses tools, for good and bad, a signal goes out. When man leaves the bonds of earth and finds the monolith on the moon, a signal is sent letting them know we are space faring. When we get between Jupiter and Saturn, a signal is sent and let’s them know we are inter solar and soon to be interstellar. And, Bowman is taken in and transformed into something else and used to issue warnings.
What “they” will do with this info may not be good.
This post was edited on 11/22/20 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 11/22/20 at 9:56 pm to Philzilla2k
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I didn’t give up any spoilers.
There's no such thing as spoilers for a fricking 53-year-old film... Especially one that is as famous and legendary as 2001.
Thats like saying, wait, don't say that in the Godfather book, Sonny's mistress had a huge whoo-ha.
It's ridiculous to even bring the word "spoilers" up. It's kind of a joke, actually.
This post was edited on 11/22/20 at 9:59 pm
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