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re: 2 questions about X-Men DOFP **SPOILERS**
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:56 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:56 am to OMLandshark
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No, and I'd have a hard time believing Mystique would leave Xavier to die.
Wasn't she cured before he "died"? IIRC she was cast aside before all of that.
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:58 am to Breesus
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Why was Xavier alive in the movie? Didnt he explode at the end of X3. And isnt this movie in the same universe and after the events of X3?
Basically the regular future in the movie assumes that the only event that occurred in the X3 was Wolverine killing Jean. That's it. Everything else didn't happen. Singer really had no part of X-3 so he tossed everything from that movie out except Wolverine killing Jean.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:00 am to Breesus
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Ironman 3
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3 of the worst superhero movies ever made. Ever. Period. In every single aspect of the entire movie.
Well this is just wrong. Iron Man 3 had its faults (Shane Black changing the second half of the movie save for the "House Party" was a bad decision), but it was overall still a good movie, just not a great one.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:04 am to Fewer Kilometers
As for Apocalypse, I've heard that they are doing it with the First Class crew in the 80's. If Logan wakes up after those events have already occurred and we don't see Mystique around, then I'm guessing that means either one or both of them were killed in the process of defeating Apocalypse. That also removes a sizable amount of tension from the movie since we already know that Xavier, Logan, Jean, Scott, Hank, etc. survive.
Yeah it would be pretty shocking if Magneto and/or Mystique die, but given their lack of presence in the new future, it really wouldn't be a surprise.
Then again maybe they create yet another whole new reality track in the 80's that has been shown yet. So much time travel
Yeah it would be pretty shocking if Magneto and/or Mystique die, but given their lack of presence in the new future, it really wouldn't be a surprise.
Then again maybe they create yet another whole new reality track in the 80's that has been shown yet. So much time travel
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:23 am to The_Hornet
Are you kidding? Iron Man 3 might be the worst of the 3, and yes that includes spiderman 3. There's really not much good to be said about IM3
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:55 am to OMLandshark
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I don't see why we disagree here.
Because what I THINK you were saying in your first post is that the remorse Magneto expressed to the professor as they were waiting for the sentinels to break in carried over to the new timeline, which we disagree with. Being in that dire situation forced them to work together and gave him an opportunity to reflect on the choices he made. He definitely wasn't heading to that at the end of 3.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:52 am to sicboy
Here's my question: Is Wolverine stuck with bone claws?
Stryker's role going forward is unclear, but it would seem that if he's going to have atamantium skeleton and claws, he's going to have to get them on his own.
Stryker's role going forward is unclear, but it would seem that if he's going to have atamantium skeleton and claws, he's going to have to get them on his own.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:25 pm to udtiger
Stryker didn't die. Mystique was just impersonating him at the end.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:30 pm to sicboy
Magneto was still the villain in the new time line and the events of the first xmen most likely happened since we see rogue with the streak in her hair
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:30 pm to Breesus
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X3
Spiderman 3
Ironman 3
3 of the worst superhero movies ever made. Ever. Period. In every single aspect of the entire movie.
thats so false that it couldnt even carry a shitty meme.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:31 pm to sicboy
This is apparently based off of one set of comics in the X-men universe.
What happened in those in regards to the OP's questions?
What happened in those in regards to the OP's questions?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:37 pm to Breesus
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Why was Xavier alive in the movie? Didnt he explode at the end of X3. And isnt this movie in the same universe and after the events of X3?
this is basically what they did
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P. Xavier is the brain dead twin of Charles Xavier. To escape death, Xavier transferred his mind to the body P. Xavier, who was under the care of Dr. Moira MacTaggert at Muir Island.
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However, to escape death, Xavier transferred his mind to the body of his brain-dead twin brother, P. Xavier, who was under the care of Dr. Moira MacTaggert at Muir Island.
dunno if this was a Ratner idea or if it was a surviving part of the original mapped out story
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Shortly after returning from Japan, Logan is greeted by a restored Charles Xavier and repowered Magneto, who inform him that a darkness is coming that could destroy their kind and that he is needed. Wolverine asked how it was possible that he came back, and he said that he merely used his gifts.
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This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:01 pm to Dr RC
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P. Xavier is the brain dead twin of Charles Xavier
orly
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:02 pm to Dr RC
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To escape death, Xavier transferred his mind to the body P. Xavier, who was under the care of Dr. Moira MacTaggert at Muir Island.
He pulled a "Spock"?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:10 pm to BilJ
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Are you kidding? Iron Man 3 might be the worst of the 3, and yes that includes spiderman 3. There's really not much good to be said about IM3
Well you are entitled to your opinion even if it has no basis in reality.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:12 pm to CE Tiger
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Magneto was still the villain in the new time line and the events of the first xmen most likely happened since we see rogue with the streak in her hair
Ugh no. It's pretty clear that the Xavier-Magneto relationship changed and just because Rogue showed up means nothing in that regard. Maybe they reached out to her sooner. Who knows, but it's pretty safe to say that things in the new timeline for these characters are at least 99% different.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:18 pm to The_Hornet
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Well you are entitled to your opinion even if it has no basis in reality.
you enjoyed an Iron Man movie without Iron Man? A big villain set up only to have it be revealed that he was just a drunk actor? Iron Man suits that could be taken out by runaway buses? Gweneth Paltrow dawning a suit? I could go on....that movie was shite
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:31 pm to BilJ
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you enjoyed an Iron Man movie without Iron Man?
Did you even watch the movie? He was in the suit several times.
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A big villain set up only to have it be revealed that he was just a drunk actor?
That did bother me. By far my biggest criticism of the movie.
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Iron Man suits that could be taken out by runaway buses
One suit. And it wasn't destroyed. It was disassembled. He wore it latter on in the same movie.
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Gweneth Paltrow dawning a suit?
How exactly is this a bad thing in your mind? Rhodes was in a suit. One of the Extremis soldiers in a suit. But the love interest in the suit is horrible in your mind?
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I could go on....
Let me get some popcorn and by all means continue. Free entertainment.
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that movie was shite
Not even close. I was disappointed by the plot twist, but in no way was that movie shite. You do realize there is middle ground between shite and amazing right? I thought this movie was going to be a 9-9.5 for me. It was a 8. So yeah it was disappointed based on expectations, but shite? Not even close.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:32 pm to The_Hornet
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Ugh no. It's pretty clear that the Xavier-Magneto relationship changed and just because Rogue showed up means nothing in that regard. Maybe they reached out to her sooner. Who knows, but it's pretty safe to say that things in the new timeline for these characters are at least 99% different.
At the point the new timeline breaks off, Magneto made an attempt at the president and had to be stopped by the professor. There was no reconciliation. I think it's fair to say that their relationship didn't really change from the earlier movies. Mystique, maybe.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:35 pm to The_Hornet
I think the whole fact that Tony Stark doesn't even need to be in the Ironman suit for it to work just makes that movie a robot movie and not a superhero movie.
Who's the superhero? The suit?
Who's the superhero? The suit?
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