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2 questions about X-Men DOFP **SPOILERS**
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:42 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:42 am
I know there was a thread on this but didn't feel like digging through it to see if this was answered.
1) Was it kind of implied that Professor X and Magneto had never reconciled in the new reality when Wolverine wakes up? I mean, he probably isn't hanging around the school and all, but since it was the conflict with the sentinels that drew them to the same side, without that struggle, did they still remain at odds with their motives? Maybe I missed something at the end that hinted at that.
2) With the original X-Men movies, did they ever hint at any kind of previous relationship between the professor and Mystique? It's obviously strong with the reboot, but I don't recall there ever being a connection with the first movies? Again, I could have missed that too. And I'm sure there's something on it in the comics, but I'm speaking strictly in the movie universe.
1) Was it kind of implied that Professor X and Magneto had never reconciled in the new reality when Wolverine wakes up? I mean, he probably isn't hanging around the school and all, but since it was the conflict with the sentinels that drew them to the same side, without that struggle, did they still remain at odds with their motives? Maybe I missed something at the end that hinted at that.
2) With the original X-Men movies, did they ever hint at any kind of previous relationship between the professor and Mystique? It's obviously strong with the reboot, but I don't recall there ever being a connection with the first movies? Again, I could have missed that too. And I'm sure there's something on it in the comics, but I'm speaking strictly in the movie universe.
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:50 am to sicboy
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1) Was it kind of implied that Professor X and Magneto had never reconciled in the new reality when Wolverine wakes up? I mean, he probably isn't hanging around the school and all, but since it was the conflict with the sentinels that drew them to the same side, without that struggle, did they still remain at odds with their motives? Maybe I missed something at the end that hinted at that.
They reconciled, but there was still some regret over what they did in the past.
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2) With the original X-Men movies, did they ever hint at any kind of previous relationship between the professor and Mystique? It's obviously strong with the reboot, but I don't recall there ever being a connection with the first movies? Again, I could have missed that too. And I'm sure there's something on it in the comics, but I'm speaking strictly in the movie universe.
No, and I'd have a hard time believing Mystique would leave Xavier to die.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:52 am to OMLandshark
I know First Class was a reboot, but bringing back Stewart and McKellan to play the same characters in the new X-Men universe opened up a slew of discrepancies. To which they probably didn't care anyways.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:15 am to OMLandshark
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They reconciled, but there was still some regret over what they did in the past.
When did they show/explain that?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:30 am to jacks40
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When did they show/explain that?
They were friendly with one another and Magneto in the end wishes they had not spent so much time fighting.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:36 am to OMLandshark
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They were friendly with one another and Magneto in the end wishes they had not spent so much time fighting.
Right, but that was in the previous reality. Who's to say that he doesn't continue on that same trajectory of the first 3 movies because he never had that moment of regret?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:39 am to sicboy
I have a question.
Why was Xavier alive in the movie? Didnt he explode at the end of X3. And isnt this movie in the same universe and after the events of X3?
Admittedly, i hated X3 so much i tried to block it out of my mind and i almost clapped in the theater when they showed flashes of X3 and Young Xavier screams out I DONT WANT THAT FUTURE. Neither do we, Charles. Neither do we, old friend.
Why was Xavier alive in the movie? Didnt he explode at the end of X3. And isnt this movie in the same universe and after the events of X3?
Admittedly, i hated X3 so much i tried to block it out of my mind and i almost clapped in the theater when they showed flashes of X3 and Young Xavier screams out I DONT WANT THAT FUTURE. Neither do we, Charles. Neither do we, old friend.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:41 am to Breesus
I can't remember much about 3 either, but I do remember this scene where I guess he came back. Not sure if this was ever explained.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:42 am to sicboy
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Who's to say that he doesn't continue on that same trajectory of the first 3 movies because he never had that moment of regret?
He's fricking Magneto. There's no doubt in my mind he continued to be distrustful of humanity and advance the mutant agenda. I'll have to disagree with OML landshark here as well. He wasn't even in the end scene. Probably because him and Xavier continued to fight. They respect each other but they have fundamentally different views on the world.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:43 am to sicboy
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I can't remember much about 3 either
I thought about rewatching it after DOFP so i could get a grasp on what happened but i decided to beat off with sand papper and lemon juice instead. I think i made the better choice.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:45 am to Breesus
I remember Vinny Jones as Juggernaut, which initially I thought was brilliant, but he was beyond horrible. He just needs to stop acting so I can remember him from Lock Stock and that's it.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:47 am to sicboy
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I remember Vinny Jones as Juggernaut, which initially I thought was brilliant, but he was beyond horrible. He just needs to stop acting so I can remember him from Lock Stock and that's it.
X3
Spiderman 3
Ironman 3
3 of the worst superhero movies ever made. Ever. Period. In every single aspect of the entire movie.
Let's hope the third of this trilogy can kick that trend.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:51 am to Breesus
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Let's hope the third of this trilogy can kick that trend.
I guess that's another question: where do they go from here with the new universe?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:53 am to sicboy
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I guess that's another question: where do they go from here with the new universe?
ETA:
Apocalypse and the horseman. Which will probably be absolutely amazing since the trilogy has been nothing but so far.
But 'd like Colossus to do something other than get ripped in half, that's for sure.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 8:56 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:54 am to sicboy
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I guess that's another question: where do they go from here with the new universe?
If you stayed until the end of the credits, you saw which direction they will be going. They're going to be doing an "Age of Apocalypse", just without the alternate time line.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:55 am to TigerNutwhack
I knew there was something after the credits, but was told it wasn't significant. That's that last time I listen to people again.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:56 am to sicboy
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I knew there was something after the credits, but was told it wasn't significant.
It was cool. You saw Apocolypse building the pyramids while everyone chanted his name then as the camera slowly panned around his back you saw him and his face and in the background you saw the 4 horseman's shadows behind him on a sand dune with the sun rising.
I wonder who the horseman will be.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 9:00 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:00 am to Breesus
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Didnt he explode at the end of X3. And isnt this movie in the same universe and after the events of X3?
Yes and yes. I think they decided to just ignore that steaming pile they called X3.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:22 am to Breesus
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Probably because him and Xavier continued to fight. They respect each other but they have fundamentally different views on the world.
I don't see why we disagree here.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:48 am to sicboy
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1) Was it kind of implied that Professor X and Magneto had never reconciled in the new reality when Wolverine wakes up? I mean, he probably isn't hanging around the school and all, but since it was the conflict with the sentinels that drew them to the same side, without that struggle, did they still remain at odds with their motives? Maybe I missed something at the end that hinted at that.
All that we know of that altered timeline is what we saw with Wolverine at the end of the movie. No telling what the status is on the Magneto/Xavier relationship in that timeline (we may never visit that future again). Based on what we seen, there's a good chance that Magneto is a dick (as he seems to be during peace time). When he doesn't need the X-Men, he's a dick to them.
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2) With the original X-Men movies, did they ever hint at any kind of previous relationship between the professor and Mystique? It's obviously strong with the reboot, but I don't recall there ever being a connection with the first movies? Again, I could have missed that too. And I'm sure there's something on it in the comics, but I'm speaking strictly in the movie universe.
No relationship hinted at prior to First Class.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 9:50 am
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