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re: 1st trailer for THE LORD OF THE RINGS: WAR OF THE ROHIRRIM
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:00 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:00 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Do I need any knowledge beyond the original 3 movies and the Hobbit? Meaning is it a Marvel thing where if you don't watch the Amazon show as well then you won't get it?
Based on the trailer, you wouldn't even need that knowledge.
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:07 pm to imjustafatkid
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Based on the trailer, you wouldn't even need that knowledge.
there are literally scenes from those movies in the trailer
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:11 pm to Corinthians420
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there are literally scenes from those movies in the trailer
Bait & switch. As I explained above.
Similar to calling a movie, a “MadMax saga” when there’s no MadMax.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:12 pm to Madking
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Yes, Clone Wars isn’t good. You may have liked it when you were a child the way everyone likes silly and dumb shite when they’re children but it isn’t good.
Whole lot a wrong in there.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:14 pm to Roaad
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She is never seen outperforming her gender's physical limitations to also diminish male heroic characters.
In the worst Alien movie, they made Ripley a girlboss.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:15 pm to Corinthians420
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there are literally scenes from those movies in the trailer
...and?
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:28 pm to imjustafatkid
Exactly. Granted, Jackson, Boyens & Walsh come with top shelf cred. Potentially a return to glory for the story telling of Middle Earth. And this should be a welcome project at a time when Amazon is violating Tolkien’s work with its ridiculous adaptation.
When I first heard about it , I was full of hope and looking forward to it utterly clowning Amazon’s Rings of Power.
Oh well.
When I first heard about it , I was full of hope and looking forward to it utterly clowning Amazon’s Rings of Power.
Oh well.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:44 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
I looked it up, the director of this also directed the 5th episode from Star Wars: Visions "The Ninth Jedi".
Honestly I think Visions was well received on here.
He also has a lot of Ghost in a Shell on his resume, though looking at his list of films and animes; kind of feels like a stretch to call him legendary. I mean he's no Hayao Miyazaki or Shinichiro Watanabe.
Honestly I think Visions was well received on here.
He also has a lot of Ghost in a Shell on his resume, though looking at his list of films and animes; kind of feels like a stretch to call him legendary. I mean he's no Hayao Miyazaki or Shinichiro Watanabe.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:45 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
It's hard to understand why companies keep going back to this proven failure.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:24 pm to ThoseGuys
quote:If you dig into what Tolkien put in the appendices and books, this movie is staying completely within canon.
last read the Hobbit about 3 years ago. I haven't watched or read any of the Lord of the Rings content in probably a decade, but I'm pretty sure there is unexplored regions or stories to tell.
I mean it doesn't sound like they are taking Aragorn's reign as king and suddenly pretending like some previously unmentioned female was actually the one leading the military and making all the decisions that Aragorn just benefitted from. That's some Star Wars shite right there.
The fortress called Helm's Deep is called that, after King Helm. He had to hole up there during a winter, while Rohan was in the midst of a civil war.
The civil war was between he and his house (the House of Eorl, which remains the ruling House in LOTR), and someone from the Westfold, whose family tried to marry into the other House and gain power.
This 'unnamed woman' would be the daughter whose hand was being demanded, so it's completely relevant to flesh her out some.
As for her being a warrior, Eowyn makes the comment about being a shield maiden of the House of Eorl, and that's in the books as well as the movies. And while it probably surprised the reader, her training and valor don't seem to shock the other Rohirrim, just Merry (the outsider from the Shire). The Rohirrim are described as tall, fair haired, from the North, who love the sword and the glory of battle and victory... all things that at least to me suggest the Norse. They had women warriors.
Eowyn is the niece of the king, this chick is the daughter of the king- an even higher level socially, apparently trained in similar fashion.
All that to say- they haven't yet veered off course from Tolkien's writings, simply by gving this girl a name and some screen time.
I'm not a huge anime fan, not sure how well it will turn out. My concern is more about making it fit within both the Tolkien and anime genres, stylistically. I'll watch it, probably streaming unless I hear it's great and I have the time to get out and see it.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:27 pm to imjustafatkid
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It's hard to understand why companies keep going back to this proven failure.
Its hard to understand why people get upset over a new lord of the Rings movie. Especially one from the studio that brought us the trilogy
I played the Shadow of War video game and it has Helms daughter in it at one point.
Both those games were awesome, should I be upset that they were made or not though? I need to know so I can go back and unplay them.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 8/23/24 at 3:21 am to Corinthians420
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But we get it, you don't like the new movie. it's ok, we know you'll be back to tell us how much it sucks in the next thread.
I’m explaining why I’m not looking forward to a movie I had previously circled on my calendar.
Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:41 am to imjustafatkid
quote:It wasn't really Ripley, though
In the worst Alien movie, they made Ripley a girlboss.
It was a bullshite clone.
I think of it as the retard clone from Multiplicity
Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:46 am to ThoseGuys
quote:If you are talking modern day, then you, and they, would be right.
My argument was that I feel like any time a trailer shows a female in certain light, people cry girl boss.
"Girlboss" trope and "the girl that is the key to everything" trope are easily the 2 most abused tropes in film today.
As a side note. . .I am Borderlands might signal the end of those tropes. They used both to excess, that it almost seemed like bad satire
Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:48 am to SouthEasternKaiju
What do you hope to gain by engaging with that kid? He has nothing to offer.
Posted on 8/23/24 at 6:23 am to Roaad
Just bored, I guess.
Posted on 8/23/24 at 6:24 am to Green Chili Tiger
Sorry I don't wat anime
Posted on 8/23/24 at 6:51 am to Roaad
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If you are talking modern day, then you, and they, would be right.
"Girlboss" trope and "the girl that is the key to everything" trope are easily the 2 most abused tropes in film today.
Now that certainly is a fair point I had not considered. The girl boss trope being so abused that it's almost a natural reaction to cringe. I mean I know anytime I see a ragtag group of unlikely allies in a movie trailer I assume it's a Guardian of the Galaxy ripoff where everyone is slightly unlikeable assholes who make quips every other line.
Posted on 8/23/24 at 7:25 am to Roaad
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"Girlboss" trope and "the girl that is the key to everything" trope are easily the 2 most abused tropes in film today.
Its literally animated......
And we know she isn't the key to everything, so I don't know why you'd bring that up. Frodo is the one that was the key.
Posted on 8/23/24 at 7:43 am to Corinthians420
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Frodo is the one that was the key.
Samwise was the real hero.
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