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15 Things The Walking Dead Gets Wrong

Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:21 am
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:21 am
(Some comic spoilers ahead, but nothing major to impact the show)

Came across this article, and while I don't agree on all of the author's points, I wanted to highlight a few. Being that this article was written only a few weeks ago, I find it to be very relevant to this season and a lot of complaints from some of people here. TWD will always be my "ride and die" show, and I'll be watching until the end, but this season has been a huge step back in terms of quality.

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15. The Zombies
The zombies in the show aren’t scary or intimidating at all! They’re supposed to bring a degree of horror and fright with them but honestly, they’re so lethargic and slow that any suspense you’d like to see always ends up falling flat. The series would be so much more exciting if the zombies were like packs of rabid dogs, as seen in Zack Snyder’s Dawn of the Dead.


I personally don't agree at all with the author and this article immediately loses its credibility with a stupid point on preference. Fast moving zombies would make this a very short series, because to be honest you aren't surviving that shite. My issue with the zombie is the inconsistency in their strength and also their seemingly stealth like ability to sneak up on someone without making a sound. No consistency. That said, some of the best looking zombies on any screen.

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#14 The Villains
Every time we come across a villain in the show, they feel oddly familiar to what came before. We get it, people will be selfish, bitter and deadly to get what they want to survive, but honestly, a little differentiation would be appreciated. The Governor and Negan, for example, feel the same in the show, yet in the books, they came off differently. The former was ruthless but cerebral, while Negan was just chaotic.


I agree here, but it's also post-apocalyptic fiction 101. There is always going to be a ruthless "Big Bad." That said, I actually like the show's Governor and Negan more so than the comics. However, it gets stale.

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#13 The Tone
The show’s tone is so inconsistent that you can’t help but feel frustrated. At times, it feels like a soap opera, then at others it tries hard to be an action-driven series. When it’s not attempting to do both, it then tries to give you horror and gore. There’s no problem in attempting all these themes but a balance must be struck or else the show will just fluctuate and end up all over the place.


Sums it up well and I agree here. Just all over the place.

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#8 LGBTQ Characters
The show hasn’t handled LGBTQ characters as well as the books. On the television show, the writers take such a novelty approach to homosexuality and you actually feel like they’re plugging in such relationships because they have to meet a quota of some sort. The series, for some reason, doesn’t allow such relationships to flourish like the straight ones do in the air-time given


To be honest, while I have no issues with LGTBQ characters, they were forced in the books as well as the show. Poor writing, by both Kirkman and the show writers, does them no favors.

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#7 Romance
When romance is charted in the books, it’s organic and feels natural, but in the show, there are quite a few cases where it feels forced. Rick and Michonne is a prime example. Their relationship came out of the blue and felt very rushed. There wasn’t much chemistry, especially because just one season before, Rick was interested in Alexandria’s Julie. The lack of chemistry is also apparent with Carol and Ezekiel, and with Abraham, Sasha and Rosita.


Ain't no way I'm leaving Rosita for Sasha. And the Rick and Michonne relationship was extremely out of left-field. The feelings he had for Julia felt real. This relationship with Michonne is just forced. And Carol and Ezekial? It's like they forget they tried to pair them up.

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#4 Character Intelligence
This show legit has some of the dumbest character decisions in the history of television. Rosita asking Eugene to make one bullet to kill Negan, Daryl acting up and infuriating Negan causing him to beat Glenn to death and Gabriel trying to save the villainous Gregory only to end up in a bus with Negan are just some of the moments that leaves us wondering how did these people survive such dire circumstances.


I understand that for the sake of the show, characters cannot always make the most informed and logical choice, but some of the decisions they make are just beyond stupid.

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#3 Actions and Fight Sequences
The fight scenes have always been average on this series. Apart from Rick going up against the Governor or the few scenes where Morgan uses his staff, there’s no real intensity. This is a shock because AMC has already done brilliant fight sequences with its kung-fu western Into The Badlands, so maybe Kirkman and company should be employing those choreographers.


There's too many guns and unlimited ammo, and it's dragging the show down. Guns should be used in only extreme circumstances, with the majority of weaponry being blades and staffs.

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#1 Carol
For someone who Kirkman kept alive despite killing off in the book, the series has shown no growth with Carol. She moved from a sweetheart and survivor in Season 1 to someone who lost a lot and turned into a stone-cold killer. Yet the show constantly has her carrying out questionable decisions, then shaping her as a leader, before making her a murderous outsider once again. They then rope her back in as a hero, before rinsing and repeating in a vicious cycle.


One of the most popular characters on the show has become stale. She is basically the Terminator mixed with the Angel of Death, and no matter the situation she comes out ahead with a trail of bodies in her wake. I don't know what her direction is anymore or even her intentions, other than to kill them all!

Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:32 am to
There's a lot more than 15 things this show gets wrong.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:48 am to
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There's a lot more than 15 things this show gets wrong.


I think there are a handful of major things the show is getting wrong. A lot of it can be nit-picking, which one can do for any show.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:50 am to
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The Zombies


It drives me nuts that anyone can just push a knife through the skull of a walker. The skull is incredibly hard and thick bone. You'd be lucky to penetrate it with an ax with one swing.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:54 am to
#1 Should have been canceled after season 1
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:56 am to
The issue with the zombies is that they are not a threat at all. They used to be at the beginning of the series, but there was a deliberate effort to nerf them. At this point they might as well not even be there.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:56 am to
16. The zombies don’t say “Braiiiiins”.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:57 am to
I always figured the virus makes the Walkers bones soft and that explains the skull thing. No way anyone would survive an attack if the skull was hard.

But the unlimited ammo thing is really starting to bother me. I figured they would fix that hole by either having them find a National Guard Armory with millions of rounds, showing them learn how to reload / manufacture or use ammo shortage as a plot device. But to just not address it at all is weak writing.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:59 am to
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t drives me nuts that anyone can just push a knife through the skull of a walker. The skull is incredibly hard and thick bone. You'd be lucky to penetrate it with an ax with one swing.



The fact that every character isnt wearing at minimum full bodied chain mail, or at maximum full armor is insane. They've watched their friends die from a bite. A zombie has never been shown to have superhuman strength or bite capabilities. Hell a heavy set of durable welder clothes would save most people's lives.

Also, they should all carry warhammers.

I'd watch walking dead if every character wore chainmail, a helmet, and wielded a warhammer.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:59 am to
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I personally don't agree at all with the author and this article immediately loses its credibility with a stupid point on preference. Fast moving zombies would make this a very short series, because to be honest you aren't surviving that shite. My issue with the zombie is the inconsistency in their strength and also their seemingly stealth like ability to sneak up on someone without making a sound. No consistency. That said, some of the best looking zombies on any screen.



Why not both? Seriously, they should start out fast, then get slower over time as their tissue degrades. That way, a person dying instantly becomes an "oh shite" moment, but it also provides a seeming light at the end of the tunnel if humanity can outlast them.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:00 am to
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It drives me nuts that anyone can just push a knife through the skull of a walker. The skull is incredibly hard and thick bone. You'd be lucky to penetrate it with an ax with one swing.


I almost want to get some skulls that are synthetic replicas and try to pierce one with a knife, and then leave a few out in the elements to see how it would affect them over time. They pierce skulls with ease, and use everything, from knives to license plates to screwdrivers. Hell Even Noah used a model airplane to kill his little brother.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 11:00 am
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:02 am to
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The fact that every character isnt wearing at minimum full bodied chain mail, or at maximum full armor is insane. They've watched their friends die from a bite. A zombie has never been shown to have superhuman strength or bite capabilities. Hell a heavy set of durable welder clothes would save most people's lives.



Agree completely. Jonathan Maberry, an author of many zombie books, even had his characters in one series wrap newspapers around their arms and tape them in place. Just so simple and made sense. Or even strips of carpet. Just something.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:07 am to
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It drives me nuts that anyone can just push a knife through the skull of a walker. The skull is incredibly hard and thick bone. You'd be lucky to penetrate it with an ax with one swing.


This goes well with my previous post. As the bodies degrade, the bone density could degrade. Older zombies are more brittle and easier to take down, but fresh zombies are kind of tough to take down. Amping up the intensity. As it is, you either have to be enveloped by a herd or a clumsy retard (trip over dead deer much, Coral?) to fall victim. Unfortunately, they can't go back and undo the nature of walkers that they've created.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:17 am to
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I personally don't agree at all with the author and this article immediately loses its credibility with a stupid point on preference. Fast moving zombies would make this a very short series, because to be honest you aren't surviving that shite. My issue with the zombie is the inconsistency in their strength and also their seemingly stealth like ability to sneak up on someone without making a sound. No consistency. That said, some of the best looking zombies on any screen.


perhaps the ONLY thing the show gets right 100% of the time is the zombies. this is the best "dead" zombies have ever been portrayed (the 28 days/weeks zombies are still technically alive i think)
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:21 am to
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Also, they should all carry warhammers.


Exactly. A machete is a really shitty weapon against an enemy that can live through anything other than having the brain penetrated. A sledge hammer, and ax, hell even a framing hammer would all make more sense.

And honestly, a pair of carhartt insulated coveralls would be a thousand times more effective than motocross pads.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:36 am to
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They pierce skulls with ease, and use everything, from knives to license plates to screwdrivers. Hell Even Noah used a model airplane to kill his little brother.

I actually laugh out loud every time Morgan shoves his bowstaff straight through someone's head, and with just a little effortless shove. Even people who are alive IIRC. It's hilarious how many simple things like that the show gets wrong.
Posted by nes2010
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:38 am to
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The fact that every character isnt wearing at minimum full bodied chain mail, or at maximum full armor is insane


Also Michone had a perfect way to be ignored by the walkers. Why haven't they gotten some more walkers without teeth and arms?
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:48 am to
I remember specifically in one of the last few episodes they had Rick effortlessly put a knife through the forehead of a recently dead person to put them down. Skulls are very delicate in the walking dead.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:56 pm to
In the show's timeline it is now a few years after the zombie apocalypse kicked off, and yet the zombies (who are just animate dead bodies) have decayed no more than they had when Rick woke up in the hospital. Why would dead bodies decay for a while, but then stop? The world of TWD should now be set in a post-zombie apocalyptic world where zombies have become extremely rare, since all the originals would have decayed into dust and there are very few humans left to make new ones out of.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:45 pm to
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There's a lot more than 15 things this show gets wrong.


Jesus Christ, y’all can’t help but bitch about an article that bitches about the show

If there is more than 15 things wrong with the show, and you stand by your opinion, name them



**id like to point out that most of these criticisms are completely valid

**** I also know that I probably stand alone with my frustration with the frustration
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:50 pm
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