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re: 15 Reasons Tim Burton’s Batman is Better Than Chris Nolan’s The Dark Knight
Posted on 8/8/12 at 10:09 am to sicboy
Posted on 8/8/12 at 10:09 am to sicboy
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The final fight in the first Batman isn't all that exciting either. Watch this movie again. I think we glamorize the past too often. Not saying it's a bad movie by any means, but comparing the two is just stupid.
Yeah, it's been a while since I've watched the whole thing through. I'm not even saying I think that Batman's final fight is better than the new ones, but I guess I was saying it was a possibility since I think the finales in the new ones can leave something to be desired.
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 10:16 am to F machine
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finales in the new ones can leave something to be desired.
I guess I don't see it that way. The train scene in BB was pretty epic, action wise. The fight with Joker in TDK is almost a carbon copy for TB's version
, and the scene with Harvey Dent just being the catalyst for Batman's self imposed exile. The only thing I didn't care for in TDKR is that Batman just goes after Bane straight up again. Considering he was almost killed the first time, I figured he would take a different approach on his return. Although, the first fight was probably due to Batman just being out of the game for too long. The bomb chase scene was pretty intense, with all the stuff at the end being open ended, yet still having closure. I have no problem with them.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 10:20 am to Rittdog
Also,
I think the honest and best interpretation is going to fall somewhere in the middle of Burton and Nolan.
Burton was too cheesy and cartoony to be taken seriously. Nolan's was too filled with dread and realism to be about a "superhero."
I think the honest and best interpretation is going to fall somewhere in the middle of Burton and Nolan.
Burton was too cheesy and cartoony to be taken seriously. Nolan's was too filled with dread and realism to be about a "superhero."
Posted on 8/8/12 at 10:24 am to sicboy
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I guess I don't see it that way. The train scene in BB was pretty epic, action wise. The fight with Joker in TDK is almost a carbon copy for TB's version , and the scene with Harvey Dent just being the catalyst for Batman's self imposed exile. The only thing I didn't care for in TDKR is that Batman just goes after Bane straight up again. Considering he was almost killed the first time, I figured he would take a different approach on his return. Although, the first fight was probably due to Batman just being out of the game for too long. The bomb chase scene was pretty intense, with all the stuff at the end being open ended, yet still having closure. I have no problem with them.
Well when you put it that way maybe I was wrong
Posted on 8/8/12 at 10:38 am to F machine
That article is blocked at work, but is he saying the final scene on Batman was better than the finale in Begins and or TDK?
IMO, the most "realistic" part of the Nolan films is Gotham. The way its portrayed and of course it was filmed on location in Chicago and NYC/Pitt. Batman was filmed on a set and looks like it. The final fight is in a 30 story cathedral. It looks like what is now the typical Tim Burton nightmare type of gothic city,
IMO, the most "realistic" part of the Nolan films is Gotham. The way its portrayed and of course it was filmed on location in Chicago and NYC/Pitt. Batman was filmed on a set and looks like it. The final fight is in a 30 story cathedral. It looks like what is now the typical Tim Burton nightmare type of gothic city,
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:07 am to H-Town Tiger
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IMO, the most "realistic" part of the Nolan films is Gotham. The way its portrayed and of course it was filmed on location in Chicago and NYC/Pitt. Batman was filmed on a set and looks like it. The final fight is in a 30 story cathedral. It looks like what is now the typical Tim Burton nightmare type of gothic city,
Well the article disagrees with that as well.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:10 am to Freauxzen
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I think the honest and best interpretation is going to fall somewhere in the middle of Burton and Nolan.
Well said.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:17 am to Rittdog
I agree with a lot of the points he makes.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:17 am to etm512
From my understanding, the Dark Knight trilogy is based off of the graphic novels. TB's movies are based on a basic knowledge of Batman that he maybe saw on a lunchbox at some point in his life. At one time, Burton admitted he had never read a comic book. So again, why the comparison?
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:18 am to sicboy
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Considering he was almost killed the first time, I figured he would take a different approach on his return.
He did. He threw virtually all of his punches squarely on Bane's mask. After his time in exile within the Pit, he learned Bane's weakness from the prisoners and took advantage of it.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:20 am to Rittdog
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Christian Bale never had the best lips to carry off the Batman look and the design of the cowl made it look like his face was squished. It also robbed Batman of a decent jawline.
EL OH frickING EL
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:21 am to TH03
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Less is more and Nolan’s suit had too much going on and just didn’t look cool. It’s a remarkable achievement when even George Clooney’s suit is more ascetically pleasing
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:30 am to TH03
couple points I agree with:
- Keaton was the better Batman .. Bale was the better Bruce Wayne
- Nolan's bat suit, bat cave, and bat vehicles were too "high tech" or "military" looking. I prefer the sleek, stylish look over the monster trucks.
- Keaton was the better Batman .. Bale was the better Bruce Wayne
- Nolan's bat suit, bat cave, and bat vehicles were too "high tech" or "military" looking. I prefer the sleek, stylish look over the monster trucks.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:31 am to TH03
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Less is more and Nolan’s suit had too much going on and just didn’t look cool. It’s a remarkable achievement when even George Clooney’s suit is more ascetically pleasing
this pissed me off
the whole point of nolan' batman was to make him realistic
a rubbery suit isnt gonna stop a bullet, meaning that a group of thugs couldve killed him at any time
nolan had to give batman a state of the art piece of body armor
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:35 am to Pilot Tiger
TB's batman was good in '89. Doesn't hold up now. It's just so dumb and dated.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:36 am to Rittdog
Keaton was fantastic. There was some good comedy moments and lines in that first series, especially in Keaton's two, something not quite there in TDK.
The same is true of 007. You'd love to chat over a martini with Connery's Bond. Not so much with Craig.
The same is true of 007. You'd love to chat over a martini with Connery's Bond. Not so much with Craig.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:39 am to Ash Williams
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the whole point of nolan' batman was to make him realistic
As I said, this was written by someone who didn't get it.
Nolan never intended to do a faithful interpretation of the Batman comic book character.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:42 am to TejasHorn
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Keaton was fantastic. There was some good comedy moments and lines in that first series, especially in Keaton's two, something not quite there in TDK.
The same is true of 007. You'd love to chat over a martini with Connery's Bond. Not so much with Craig.
Nice comparison. I really boils down to realism. One set of movies was more fun that philosophical .. one was the opposite.
Even when Nolan tried to instill some humor or lighter moments they fell rather flat. And I never really saw any of the cool factor type moment TB brought to the table in Nolan's Batman.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:46 am to Ash Williams
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the whole point of nolan' batman was to make him realistic
I think that was the writers main point. On one hand Nolan is making this world realistic, then on the other hand, he feeds us a plot so unrealistic it would make Michael Bay blush. If he wants realistic details give us realistic plots. If he wants comic book plots don't try and pass it off as something real.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:56 am to Rittdog
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15 Reasons Tim Burton’s Batman is Better Than Chris Nolan’s The Dark Knight
Flip the two around and I agree with pretty much everything.
This post was edited on 8/8/12 at 12:00 pm
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