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re: Zachary and Liberty basketball Update: both removed from playoffs

Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:42 am to
Posted by bigcatfish
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:42 am to
If they both have games scheduled for tonight, the players will sit tonight and be ready for the playoffs. I could be wrong but I do not think they will be removed from the playoffs. I do not think the LHSAA has the guts to keep them out and if some influential person calls the LHSAA office, the LHSAA will do what is asked of them.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:51 am to
quote:

do not think the LHSAA has the guts to keep them out and if some influential person calls the LHSAA office, the LHSAA will do what is asked of them.


So what happens with Eunice and Washington-Marion ? .. Are all their forfeits turned in to "no contests" as if they were not played.. then adjust their power ranking and put them in the playoffs ?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32905 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:52 am to
Don’t look at past rulings, only go by what this admin has done- even more so under the new rules which came about after several early season football brawls.


Look for an example to be made. A message will be sent that this behavior must stop, including fans.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 9:03 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48721 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:03 am to
I’m hearing Liberty versus Central will still go on tonight. Only varsity.

ETA: The above is wrong. Both games cancelled tonight
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 1:43 pm
Posted by bigcatfish
Member since Feb 2009
1282 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:07 am to
I would think so. Players from Liberty will have to sit for their suspension to be eligible for the playoffs.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172758 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:14 am to
Fascinating behavior

Also took me 3 pages to figure out Liberty is Lee High School. Thought Liberty was some shitty new downtown BR charter or something.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5679 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:20 am to
quote:

I’m hearing Liberty versus Central will still go on tonight. Only varsity.


Liberty should be done for sure, multiple players and fans directly involved.

Zachary is the only one that kinda has a chance, because they did not "start it", but their problem is #10 threw the first punch .. Other than #10 , Zachary coaches and players were mainly trying to break it up, not sure how many left the bench, I counted 8 Zachary players in the videos on youtube, but 5 of those were already in the game
Posted by LSUbub12
South Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
295 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:55 am to
I’m very curious as well to what the punishments if any at all will be.

As to the 2012 baseball brawl between TC and Zachary.
TC was let back in and went on to win the 4A title.
TC had a group of 6-7 dads that ran on to the field to go pull their sons out of the fight. The dads were banned from attending games the rest of the year. They set up a tailgate in somebody’s yard beyond the outfield wall at McMurray Park to watch their boys win state lol
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5679 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:04 am to
As we wait for the LHSAA ruling.. does anyone know why when McMain and Mcdonoh 35 got suspended for 45 days due to the jamboree fight, their missed games were "cancelled", but Eunice and Washington-Marion who also got suspended for 45 days their games were all 2-0 forfeits.

This has a huge effect on the power rankings, basically giving Eunice/WashMar no chance to make it, but McMain/Mc35 keep their power rating intact, so McMain will be in Mc35 out
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3110 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:02 am to
One more hour of morning
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5679 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:47 pm to
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One more hour of morning




This is taking way too long, originally thought it was an obvious 45 day suspension for both teams, now I am starting to reverse course and think the LHSAA is going to slap them on the wrist, I am now thinking they will suspend a couple from Liberty and one from Zachary, then pin the rest on unruly fans, if that happens the LHSAA better be ready to deal with some extremely upset people at McMain, McDon35, Eunice and Wash-Marion
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3110 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:51 pm to
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
On November 2" and 3* 2023, the LISAA Executive Committee authorized a new LIISAA Bylaw 5.11.12. (1-2) with prescribed authority in LHSAA Constitution 4.4.4 Make special rules to affect the spirit of fair play and good sportsmanship. Any rules or changes in the Constitution or Bylaws made by the Executive Committee after the January annual meeting must be submitted to the membership for ratification at the next annual meeting. Only the LHSAA Membership can amend the Constitution as per Article 7.4.2. The actions of the officers and directors of the LEISAA for the calendar year are hereby ratified and adopted. (See attached Item I. On January 27", 2023 at the
LIISAA's Annual General meeting Bylaw 5.11.12. (1-2) was ratified (see attached Item II). This office has enforced the Bylaw 5.11.13 on 13 occasions during the 2022-2023 fall and winter sports seasons to date. These enforcements were necessitated by incidents of poor sportsmanship that were deemed unacceptable and even ludicrous, involving not only the participants but also the coaches and spectators. As a result of these incidents, games were suspended, and in certain cases, the season ended for entire teams, individual
players, and coaches.
1920
2020 We would like to stress that while the cases were similar, each was unique in its own right. We conducted thorough investigations in collaboration with the leadership teams of the LHSAA member schools) and the assigned LHSOA officials. Every effort was
made to ensure the administration of all applicable sportsmanship penalty was swill,
appropriate, and consistent. Please be assured that this office remains fully committed to upholding the absolute highest standards of sportsmanship and fair play in all sporting events under the jurisdiction of the LHSAA. We will continue to closely monitor the conduct of all participants, coaches, and spectators to ensure that they adhere to the guidclines set forth
by the LHSAA.

^^Just sent by the LHSAA via email
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15693 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

if that happens the LHSAA better be ready to deal with some extremely upset people at McMain, McDon35, Eunice and Wash-Marion



Officials will be pissed too. If the LHSAA wants retain/attract more officials, they better show they will do everything they can to protect them.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48721 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:43 pm to
Both games, Liberty vs. Central and Zachary vs. Catholic, are cancelled tonight
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28340 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:43 pm to
I see what the problem is in the first part of this video. People had made their minds up to fight before the game even started! How do I know--look at that video again and look at the number of people wearing camouflage pants. This was a war waiting to ignite from the start. Reminds me of the Ukraine and Russia where everyone was wearing camo before the war broke out.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32905 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:34 pm to
Both teams seasons are done. Lhsaa ain’t messing around
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5679 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:38 pm to
Yep.. looks that way.. from lhsaa website

Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
36653 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:40 pm to
good. That's the only way this works.
Posted by chickenwing
USA
Member since Jul 2010
435 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 3:16 pm to
Liberty should lose the privilege of playing home games for a while. That environment was chaos.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26080 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 3:47 pm to
Just saw the text alert that both teams are disqualified from the playoffs
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