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re: You want expansion? You HAD expansion

Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:16 am to
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:16 am to
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This is likely how the bowls would have played out pre-BCS....

Sugar – No. 1 Alabama vs No. 5 Notre Dame
Cotton – No. 6 Baylor vs. No. 3 Georgia
Rose – No. 2 Michigan vs. No. 10 Utah
Orange – No. 13 Pitt vs. No. 4 Cincinnati


Yes, two blowout games and two irrelevant games with garbage teams was better.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
37687 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:18 am to
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If the regular season doesn’t count how do they pick the teams for the playoff?


I’ll wait.
Do you think every NFL game counts? Are you O.K. with 3,4, or even 5-loss teams making the college playoff? Because that's where we're headed.
If you're O.K. with that, then every game doesn't matter. You can afford to lose 2,3,4 games - no big deal - you could still make the playoffs.
That's the opposite of what made college football the king of sports.
But hey, more than a few of you honestly believe that that's progress.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38215 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:34 am to
When has there been a 2 loss champion since the playoffs started? There’s only been 1 since the bcs started and that one likely would’ve at minimum been a shared champion without the bcs. I don’t care how many teams make the playoffs tbh because the best teams are likely going to be left standing and if I don’t care to watch those teams play (like this year) I won’t watch. And honestly won’t judge those who do.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61260 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:36 am to
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Pre-BCS we had a 130-team playoff.


Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86497 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:37 am to
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When they didn't do enough over the 10, 11, 12-game playoff that was built-in.
that doesn't make any sense lol.
You said there was a 130 team playoff. They didn't lose.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148185 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:38 am to
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Pre-BCS we had a 130-team playoff.
no it didn’t

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This is why college football used to be king.
no it wasn’t

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Before money took over amateur sports,
money had taken over college football way before the BCS
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:40 am to
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Oh wait, you'd rather the regular season not count.



You only want the regular season to count for a select few teams. The irony of this is wild. Theyve already listed multiple undefeated teams who weren’t given any chance at being a national champion.
They were each given 13 chances (12 regular season games and a bowl game) to become national champions. Just how many chances would you like them to have? And as far as schedules go, they made their own schedules. Nobody forced them to play the teams they chose to schedule (outside of their own conference, of course). And if they're in a shitty conference, they'd better be beating the phuk outta teams. Every game used to matter.
We didn't need a playoff to tell me Cincinnati wasn't in the same league as Alabama, even though this wasn't anywhere near the caliber of Alabama teams of the last decade. Not sure why anyone would want to expand on that.

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:40 am to
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what made college football the king of sports.
wtf are you taking about Bozo?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
37687 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:44 am to
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This is why college football used to be king.

no it wasn’t
Then what, in your opinion, made it so popular?

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Before money took over amateur sports,

money had taken over college football way before the BCS
True, but not to the extend that it is today. If I'm being honest, bowl games were the precursor to the BCS/playoffs. College football was probably at its zenith before bowl games were even introduced.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61260 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 2:03 am to
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College football was probably at its zenith before bowl games were even introduced.


The first Rose Bowl was played in 1902 and it became a yearly event in 1916.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18338 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 2:37 am to
Give it up! It will take a couple more years after the NIL been set up. It will take time to get teams that are down right now. LSU? Texas? OU? OSU? Miami? FSU? Oregon? USC? There may be others but giving you some that should be strong or stronger in a couple of years. With SEC getting OU and Texas it will be much needed to expand the number of playoff teams. It will be much better when the new NIL get it set in stone. Give it time for teams to adapt and make key changes. It is going to be much better but right now it isn't good.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 2:38 am
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32432 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 6:18 am to
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There’s only been 1 since the bcs started and that one likely would’ve at minimum been a shared champion without the bcs.


Yet you’ll hear crickets about that team given the primary fanbase for this website.
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8743 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 6:49 am to
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Sugar – No. 1 Alabama vs No. 5 Notre Dame Cotton – No. 6 Baylor vs. No. 3 Georgia Rose – No. 2 Michigan vs. No. 10 Utah Orange – No. 13 Pitt vs. No. 4 Cincinnat
And here’s what would happen. Alabama and Michigan both win and we have a “split” national title. Baylor vs Georgia doesn’t matter if Bama wins their bowl game. Cincinnati wins, goes undefeated, but doesn’t get the votes to finish first in any poll, which people then bitch about. You’ve essentially created this endless debate about who the real best team is, and instead of watching the games on the field, we get to let the media decide who they like most. That’s your argument here.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 6:58 am to
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personally can’t wait for an all SEC final four once we get to the 16 team playoff. Would anything be more fun than a Bama/Georgia/LSU/Florida playoff bracket in like 3, 4 years or so…?


i want the committee to come out with presser now, saying no 12 team playoff.
we will keep 4 so big10 and g5 can have hope.
sec sec sec.
drops mic.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10209 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 7:01 am to
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You’ve essentially created this endless debate about who the real best team is


The argument is that the debate created by this method is part of what made college football great. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with it completely, but it does have some value. For one thing, the old poll system protected the sport from being dominated by one region. We would never know that this year Michigan didn't belong on the same field with either Alabama or Georgia, because they would have never played each other. So Midwestern fans could argue forever in blissful ignorance that 2021 Michigan was really the best team in the country and would have proved it on the field if they'd had a chance, rather than being forcibly reminded by yet another beatdown in the CFP every year that they really have no chance.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10849 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 7:07 am to
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Besides, if you thought that 2017 UCF had any chance against either Alabama or Georgia, then you don't really pay that much attention to college football.


2017 UCF beat Auburn in the Peach Bowl. The same Auburn team that beat Bama by 12 in the Iron Bowl and the same Auburn team that beat Georgia by 23 in the DSOR.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69638 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 7:09 am to
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The argument is that the debate created by this method is part of what made college football great.


This right here.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21848 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 7:11 am to
No way you can expand
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42428 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 7:26 am to
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When they didn't do enough over the 10, 11, 12-game playoff that was built-in. That's why every single game mattered. That's why nobody opted out.




So you didn't realize every one of those teams was undefeated?

And I guess you also think the 1984 BYU Cougars deserved that national Championship as well?

At least now I know not to take you football opinions seriously anymore.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41328 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 7:50 am to
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When they didn't do enough over the 10, 11, 12-game playoff that was built-in.


Those teams mentioned won every game on their schedule. What else more could they do?
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