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re: You all owe Michigan.

Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:32 pm to
Michigan and Alabama are tied 3-3 in their all-time football series. The two college football powerhouses have met six times, playing a highly competitive series of neutral-site and bowl games.



Rice holds a flawless 3-0 all-time record against Alabama in football. The two programs have never met in any other major men's or women's NCAA sport, making the football matchup the entirety of their series history,




Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23908 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:33 pm to
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when he was hired in 2024, he absolutely was, now I'm not so sure since apparently he and Grubb are allergic to running the football


Anyone who is being objective about either our functional limitations last year or the analytics related to attempting it consistently understands why Bama didnt run the football last year: we were nationally and from a program perspective historically inept at doing it.

As I see it Bama was basically a team that was nationally elite for a short time at intermediate and short passing and offensively legitimately bad at everything else due to injuries and talent.

That OL was the end result IMO of horrible talent identification for the post Brent Keys era at Bama and a really bad coaching hire by DeBoer. Whether it gets fully fixed this year remains to be seen, but being mad at Bama for not running the ball last year to me is like getting mad at a basketball team that shoots 25% from outside for not taking enough 3s.

So while some Bama fans are like "why were we bad at running the ball?" IMO the real question should be given that horrible OL, mediocre RB room, injuries/head case issues at WR/TE/QB is how the hell did we end up in Atlanta/win a game in the CFP and what would CKD do with a quality OL and a healthy elite Ty Simpson / KR level QB?
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 12:34 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71327 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:48 pm to
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NIL and the portal is what killed Saban.
Once all of his advantages disappeared he tucked tail and ran like the little bitch he is, just like from the NFL


This is a dumb take. The immediate eligibility within the transfer portal and NIL went live after Signing Day 2021. Saban's last recruiting classes at Alabama were ranked as follows:

2022: #2
2023: #1
2024: #2

He was still bringing in talent to the very end. Not only that...from 2021-2023, he played for a national championship, won two SEC championships, and led Alabama to a record of 36-6 (21-3 in the SEC).

NIL and the transfer portal did not kill Saban. Age did. He always said that when he could no longer maintain the standard he had set for himself he would retire. You could see that standard beginning to slip in 2022 and 2023. He was 72 years old and no longer as spry as he had once been. True to his word, he retired.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35308 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:56 pm to
Nil and portal sent him to retirement.
Posted by vengeanceofbrain
Member since Apr 2026
83 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:28 pm to
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NIL and the transfer portal did not kill Saban.




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He always said that when he could no longer maintain the standard he had set for himself he would retire.


Ah yes, noted truth-teller Nick Saban

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Saban's last recruiting classes at Alabama were ranked as follows: 2022: #2 2023: #1 2024: #2 He was still bringing in talent to the very end. Not only that...from 2021-2023, he played for a national championship, won two SEC championships, and led Alabama to a record of 36-6 (21-3 in the SEC).


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You could see that standard beginning to slip in 2022 and 2023.


Nice contradiction
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25330 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:53 pm to
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Your gold standard Ohio St team got punked by the worst UM team


Thanks for motivating that team to win a national title?

Do you think Auburn fans beat their chest for beating both UGA and Bama in 2017 to watch them play for the national title? it's certainly not the flex you think it is
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
2418 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:13 pm to
If 2020 was a regular season... Harbaugh would have been fired.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71327 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Nice contradiction



It's not a contradiction at all. Alabama was still winning football games but they weren't nearly as dominant wins as they had once been. They were no longer as physical on the line of scrimmage and couldn't run the ball between the tackles as consistently as they had in the past. Alabama also became more mistake-prone, turning the ball over and committing penalties at the worst possible moments. These were things that hadn't happened with previous Saban teams.

Many Alabama fans were talking about these very things in 2022 and 2023. In fact, if you go back and look through some threads from those seasons, you will find me saying that it was time for Saban to retire. I wasn't the only one either.
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
4282 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:59 pm to
NIL sent Saban into retirement
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37276 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:37 pm to
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Bama won a game in the playoffs, played for the SECCG, beat all its rivals and had a top 5 recruiting class last year then you tried desperately to hire our head coach. WTF are you talking about?

Be honest, are you really happy with back to back 4 loss seasons?

And before you send a retort about LSU’s recent poor performances, no LSU fans were obviously not happy with the BK era.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2243 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:55 pm to
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how the hell did we end up in Atlanta


4-way tie for 1st and you had tiebreaker over Georgia and Georgia had tiebreaker over OM in H2H, A&M played a very weak SEC schedule so had no chance in the tiebreaker for opponent win pct

Also, won a bunch of conference games you probably shouldn't have to teams that weren't that great in retrospect and who hung around or even led - yeah they were ranked at the time you played them but that didn't really hold up did it?

though the UGA and Vandy wins did age well with how those respective teams finished and UGA exacted revenge for the SEC crown

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win a game in the CFP


I get that all the Bama fans and KDB defenders like to use this to prop him up despite that Bama royally sucked running the football the 2 seasons he's coached there and would've sucked worse if Milroe wasn't QB1 in 2024 but...

let's be real: as satisfying as it was to see OU snap Bama's BDS win streak when it happened, OU was one of the odd teams in the playoff along with the G5 teams - their offense CRATERED after Mateer suffered his hand injury early on.

Elite defense, abysmal offense, they won a majority of their games, including the one at BDS, playing a very ugly, Iowa-esque brand of football, the LSU game at the end of the season also being a prime example and that LSU team was a shell of what started the regular season obviously. It's really not much to hang your hat on that you beat 2025 OU in a CFP game.

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what would CKD do with a quality OL and a healthy elite Ty Simpson / KR level QB?


Probably what we saw his final year at UW but with a lesser record given the competition UNLESS they get gifted the easy schedule they presently have for 2026
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 6:09 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60971 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:17 pm to
Alabama football is in a much better place than Michigan football
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23908 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:22 pm to
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Be honest, are you really happy with back to back 4 loss seasons?

2025 Offense (circa SECCG):
QB: injured
RB: injured
WR1: injured
WR2: injured
TE1: injured
TE2: injured
LT: 1st rd
LG: undrafted
C: injured
RG: injured
RT: TF

Given our injuries and OL last year winning a game in the CFP was over performing.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2243 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:13 pm to
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Given our injuries and OL last year winning a game in the CFP was over performing.


Next to winning all those close games against conference opponents who very clearly should've beaten you but for some miraculous plays on your part and/or dumb plays on theirs - UGA, Mizzou, South Carolina, Auburn

Let's face it: the OU loss to snap the BDS winning streak and the blowout -3 rushing yard SECCG loss was basically karma getting back at Bama for getting away with all those games
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 6:16 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23908 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:42 pm to
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Next to winning all those close games against conference opponents who very clearly should've beaten you but for some miraculous plays on your part and/or dumb plays on theirs - UGA, Mizzou, South Carolina, Auburn

You're describing nearly every conference game in the SEC and looking for reasons to detract from Alabama rather than being objective at all.

How does a team win close games? Coaching.

Who blew everyone out last year in the SEC? No one.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2243 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:26 pm to
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You're describing nearly every conference game in the SEC and looking for reasons to detract from Alabama rather than being objective at all.


I mean, considering how bad your run game was last year and those chickens ultimately coming home to roost in the SECCG and CFP quarters, you tell me who's being objective here

quote:

How does a team win close games? Coaching.


You're entitled to your opinion to join the CKD sunshine pumpers parroting the myth of how elite he still is
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9872 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:32 pm to
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I’m no Bama fan, but Michigan was the biggest laughing stock in college football this off-season


Texas Tech says hello.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9872 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:34 pm to
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Recruiting ranking shite talking in June is beyond stupid. LSU is putting together a really nice class but there is NO WAY anyone is beating their chest over it right now. It’s fricking June



Yep and with the portal HS recruiting rankings are not what they used to be
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37276 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:20 pm to
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tide06

So is that a yes?

Who do you blame for your poor roster construction?

Somehow after Saban’s first season he dodged ever losing 4 games.

I’m sure you see the pre-season rankings that have Bama at ~7th in the SEC this upcoming season…
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91797 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:36 pm to
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Next to winning all those close games against conference opponents who very clearly should've beaten you but for some miraculous plays on your part and/or dumb plays on theirs -
Buddy it has been an incredible rollercoaster

The highs have been unforgettable, but chaos and being unprepared have produced brutal performances. I do think early midseason Alabama was a legit NC threat, though.

Anyways, I think he’s still growing a little bit and learning through failures what he has to have to compete in the SEC.

Bernard at some point(mid 2nd year I believe) went to DeBoer and said hey man, you can’t be this soft and nonchalant. These guys came here to be coached and they’re used to some tough shite.(Germie is an all-time favorite tide player)

DeBoer started coming out of the tunnel nearly pissed off and pulled off the vibe pretty well. And he’s done some really good stuff so far.

We’ll probably know his fate once Russell’s career comes to an end. I think he’s going to prioritize the OL and running the ball better and ride Russell to an elite offense.

The talent he’s got on defense, the secondary especially, is about as elite as it gets.
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