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Yankees and New York City media accuse Houston Astros of cheating

Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:09 pm
Astros accused of stealing signs



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Yankees players and coaches became angry with the Astros during Game 1 of the ALCS when they noticed a whistling sound in the Astros' dugout -- which they believed was an over-the-line example of sign stealing, and a violation of the game's unwritten rules.

According to three sources, a Yankees coach noticed a whistling sound in the opposing dugout on certain pitches on Saturday night in Houston. The Yankees started yelling across the field, and people in the dugouts argued back and forth.




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"The whole dugout was pissed," said one source. "Everyone was chirping."



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For several years, widespread suspicion has followed the Astros about aggressive sign stealing, especially at Minute Maid Park. Although most teams engage in some form of this activity, several executives and current and former players said on Wednesday that whistling was over the line.



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"They've been doing it for years," alleged an executive from another team, when asked about the whistling.

"I would consider whistling a tired act that goes beyond what is acceptable," said another major league executive. "If the Astros or anyone else was doing it, it would be considered a break in the unwritten rules. I have not been part of any team that used a whistle from the dugout for pitch type or location."



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A major league coach -- not for the Yankees -- noted the unproven suspicions that the Astros use cameras to get signs.
"They are NASA," the coach said. "If a pitcher is tipping and the players can see from the dugout, no biggie. If they get it from somewhere else, that's dicey."
Said another coach: "Baseball, traditionally, doesn't like audio signs. For some reason we are more comfortable with the opposite. So did the Astros go over the line? Probably. But honestly I don't know where to draw the lines anymore."



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According to sources, the Yankees' loud objections on Saturday night led to the Astros cutting the whistling act in Game 2.

In that game, starter James Paxton and catcher Gary Sanchez frequently changed the signs with no one on base, a clear indication that they were worried about sign stealing from a mysterious location.
An Astros spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


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Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:11 pm to
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unwritten rules.

If it's not a written rule then it's not cheating.
And lol at steroid user A Rod complaining.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 3:11 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:11 pm to
If you think they are stealing signs... change your signs.

Unwritten rules are idiotic.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 3:12 pm
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8398 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:12 pm to
players steal signs???

gtfo here
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
Member since Jun 2007
51814 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by Ooh Wee Ooh
Member since Nov 2008
1455 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

during Game 1 of the ALCS when they noticed a whistling sound in the Astros' dugout
worked really well in Game 1. No wonder Astro’s bats are so hot
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94540 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:14 pm to
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According to sources, the Yankees' loud objections on Saturday night led to the Astros cutting the whistling act in Game 2.


Stealing signs so well, they got shutout in game 1 and won games 2 and 3.


It makes sense when you don't think about it.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27231 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:14 pm to
The Astros seem to be turning into the Patriots of Major League Baseball. And I have to say, I love it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95341 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:14 pm to
If they are using cameras to do this, they need to write that in the actual rulebook because that should be cheating


Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:15 pm to
I think there is a written rule about using cameras or such to actively steal signs.

Like having someone with a spotting scope in CF relaying information... that would be against the rules. I don't know how they could get that to the dugout and to the batter fast enough, but I guess there are ways.

Doesn't sound like there is any actual evidence of this, though.

Stealing signs the old fashioned way is just part of the game.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77614 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:15 pm to
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If you think they are stealing signs... change your signs.

Unwritten rules are idiotic.



This would be so much more fun if it had happened to the Cardinals.
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9280 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:15 pm to
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If it's not a written rule then it's not cheating.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61270 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:15 pm to
Yeah the bats dont really indicate much to me.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93722 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:16 pm to
If they’re stealing signs, cover them up better.

frick you, if you’re sending signals I can read, that’s not my problem, that’s yours. Fix it if you’re going to whine about it.
Posted by tigercubs
RVA
Member since Jan 2010
2326 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:16 pm to
Sign stealing is part of the game. As long as they're not using cameras, binoculars, etc. change up your signs and quit your bitching.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34769 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:16 pm to
How are they stealing signs?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:16 pm to
“Unwritten rules” aka Yankees are just mad they didn’t do it first
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15973 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:17 pm to
nothing wrong with stealing signs. Have a few. Imagine if in football they got made for readying the other teams cardboard signs.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:18 pm to
Sign stealing is a part of the game. The Yankees won 7-0, what are they bitching about.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12470 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:18 pm to
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If you think they are stealing signs... change your signs.

Unwritten rules are idiotic.



Exactly. Unless you use technology to assist you, then you are doing nothing wrong. It's on the other team to disguise their signs. It's part of the game. If stealing signs was wrong, then there should be an unwritten rule that a baserunner on second can't relay pitches to the batter. Then we can avoid all the trips to the mound when the pitcher and catcher get crossed up with their signals.
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