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re: Y’all really mad at the Dodgers for running an elite business?

Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:21 pm to
You're leaving out the fact that by signing Ohtani, Sasaki and Yamamoto the dodgers were able to secure corporate sponsorship from several Japanese companies to the tune of about $200 million last year alone. The Dodgers knew if they signed Ohtani the income from these japanese sponsorships would more than pay for his huge contract which is why they were willing to pay as much as they did. Other MLB teams also knew this but weren't willing to fork over the upfront money. Boo Hoo......
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:33 pm to
No it's not even close to being the same thing.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:34 pm to
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Other MLB teams also knew this but weren't willing to fork over the upfront money.


About that...
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
42747 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:36 pm to
tl;dr They bet on Ohtani eh?

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You're leaving out the fact that by signing Ohtani, Sasaki and Yamamoto the dodgers were able to secure corporate sponsorship from several Japanese companies to the tune of about $200 million last year alone. The Dodgers knew if they signed Ohtani the income from these japanese sponsorships would more than pay for his huge contract which is why they were willing to pay as much as they did. Other MLB teams also knew this but weren't willing to fork over the upfront money. Boo Hoo......


Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:52 pm to
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tl;dr


I can tell
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:24 pm to
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he Dodgers knew if they signed Ohtani the income from these japanese sponsorships would more than pay for his huge contract which is why they were willing to pay as much as they did.


That was a no brainer, specifically with Ohtani.

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Other MLB teams also knew this but weren't willing to fork over the upfront money. Boo Hoo......


The Dodgers would have matched anything they offered - and definitely for Ohtani - who brings in the most $$$. Plus the Japanese players prefer the west coast and all things being equal would almost always pick LA.

Cohen and one or two others might have been able to try and match - nobody else really could and realistically their chances were small even if they did. It's absolutely not as simple as they had their chance.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2305 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:40 pm to
They are literally buying championships. At least the Astros cheated the right way they tried to hide their cheating. The Dodgers are cheating in plain sight.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:42 pm to
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The Dodgers are cheating in plain sight.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
19079 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:31 am to
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No it's not even close to being the same thing.


I see you are a Gator fan - in my opinion it absolutely is. I'm still astounded he's walking around unscathed by this. I don't believe for one second this is all fabricated - I do believe Florida has some generous boosters that were complicit in help making it seem so.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:37 am to
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They are literally buying championships.
name one championship team that was free.

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The Dodgers are cheating in plain sight.
there's no crying in baseball.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26254 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:06 am to
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They are literally buying championships
The Dodgers front office right now is George Steinbrenner on steroids
Posted by OscarTheGrouch
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5976 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 9:04 am to
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Everything they have done has been within the boundaries of the rules; nothing illegal. Just elite. Elite front office, elite roster, elite farm system, elite manag…well, elite front office, roster, and farm system. Yet the Astros get caught red handed after blatantly cheating, face no punishment, and all you dummies celebrate it. I know all you socialism loving liberals (looking at you, Owl Lib) hate capitalism and blame the success of others for your own personal failures, but the recent success of the Dodgers is entirely due to great business acumen and done entirely within the laws of the game. The collapse of the Cheating Houston Astros back into poverty has been a joy to watch. A small part of me wants the Dodgers win it again to show that much like the Most Successful Franchise in the History of Organized Sports the New York Yankees, a three-peat is possible through great ownership and a team being built the right way. If the Yankees don’t win it this year, I hope the Dodgers do. Don’t hate because you can’t duplicate.



I detect no lies
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
21969 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 9:05 am to
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At the end of the day, professional sports in the US shouldn’t hand out titles based on who has the most cash. Put a cap and a floor and call it a day. It will be a messy lockout for sure, but get it done.



Agreed.

It can be a high cap, but the disparity is just too high and it kills all sense of parity. It will kill the league.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26254 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 9:33 am to
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but the recent success of the Dodgers is entirely due to great business acumen


Nothing to do with playing in the 2nd biggest media market in the league and thus being able to command a $330M per year local TV rights deal, while the MLB median is around $60M a year

Jerry Jones would probably have 10 Super Bowl rings by now if he was allowed to sell his own media rights and spend as much as he wanted on the roster with no salary cap. Would we suddenly be saying that Jerruh is the world's greatest GM and football mind?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150954 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 9:59 am to
So true! Look at how dominant the Mets have been! Its all about money!!
Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
9294 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 10:10 am to
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They are literally buying championships. At least the Astros cheated the right way they tried to hide their cheating. The Dodgers are cheating in plain sight.

So actually cheating and trying to hide it is not cheating but legally building a team is? My god we have reached a new level of liberal psyop.
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:12 am to
The Dodgers haven't won a darn thing in this season.

The Braves could knock them out of the playoffs.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Member since Jul 2008
19079 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:58 am to
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Nothing to do with playing in the 2nd biggest media market in the league and thus being able to command a $330M per year local TV rights deal, while the MLB median is around $60M a year


And there is a lot of nuance in the good fortune and timing of the contract, how much of it was great business acumen is absolutely debatable.

They also got a unique bankruptcy court ruling years ago that puts a cap on the amount of revenue sharing they have to share in that just another stroke of good fortune in their favor.

Nobody was holding the Dodgers up as a model franchise before the t.v. contract, they were very much in line with how other franchises operated. But since they got this monopoly money it makes it much, much easier.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 12:00 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150954 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:27 pm to
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Nobody was holding the Dodgers up as a model franchise before the t.v. contract,
100%

They literally have the same exact ownership group and baseball op execs from before then!!
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
19079 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:33 pm to
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Was literally the same exact ownership group and baseball op execs from before then!!


As you know it wasn't but to think that made no difference in how the new group would operate is naive.
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