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re: Yahoo Sports: Lebron was almost thrown off 2008 Olympic team
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:05 am to mattz1122
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:05 am to mattz1122
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And really, unnamed sources are a necessary evil. The sources who provide the best information could face repercussions for being named. If a writer names a source who prefers not to be named, then he risks not having any sources in the future.
What repercussions could occur in this situation? Seriously. This isn't the CIA or something similar. It's a basketball player. The only repercussions someone would see from this is if they're lying...
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Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:07 am to ike221
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What I find funny are people that work for ESPN, who criticize the whole "Decision" thing on Lebron James. Knowing that ESPN, who they work for, created the whole fiasco and 1 hour special and such
What's even funnier is the number of people who allow the talking heads on ESPN to do their thinking for them, as evidenced by the amount of false outrage on this thread and on the airwaves.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:08 am to Sophandros
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What repercussions could occur in this situation? Seriously. This isn't the CIA or something similar. It's a basketball player. The only repercussions someone would see from this is if they're lying...
Depending on the source, could be fired, screw up relationships with colleagues/other players, etc.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:21 am to StraightCashHomey21
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maybe if him and his team mates weren't doing this during the regular season they could have been a bit more focused playoff time.
You do realize that has ZERO to do with winning and losing right? Are people really THIS naive nowadays?
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:22 am to Sophandros
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What's even funnier is the number of people who allow the talking heads on ESPN to do their thinking for them, as evidenced by the amount of false outrage on this thread and on the airwaves.
Sophandros knocks one out of the park.
Nailed it.
Great post.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:25 am to shel311
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You do realize that has ZERO to do with winning and losing right? Are people really THIS naive nowadays?
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:31 am to Sophandros
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What repercussions could occur in this situation? Seriously. This isn't the CIA or something similar. It's a basketball player. The only repercussions someone would see from this is if they're lying...
You don't think there would be repercussions for someone close to the USA basketball team leaking out information that could affect the rep of one of its top players - a player who they would potentially want to bring back to the team? I don't see what's so hard to understand.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:45 am to StraightCashHomey21
You really think that shite matters?
WOW!
That speaks volumes man.
WOW!
That speaks volumes man.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:53 am to shel311
it showed the team lacked focus with their leader encouraging that behavior. Dancing before the game to loosen up is one thing or during a commercial break. Going with the all out theatrics and then dancing on the bench while the game is going on is on a whole different level.
Can you tell me the last NBA super star with rings who embraced this kinda stuff on the regular. other than shaq.
Can you tell me the last NBA super star with rings who embraced this kinda stuff on the regular. other than shaq.
This post was edited on 7/18/10 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:04 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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it showed the team lacked focus with their leader encouraging that behavior.
Just wow. I'm literally speechless right now.
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Can you tell me the last NBA super star with rings who embraced this kinda stuff on the regular.
I can name you teams were flamboyant and cocky and did all kinds of shite that would completely prove you wrong.
Watch 30 for 30 Tha U, and then try to explain me how that team won a title, since they OBVIOUSLY showed there lack of team focus by there "behavior", as you put it.
1985 Chicago Bears. Super Bowl Shuffle. Man, they never should have made that video, because they played that Super Bowl against the Patriots totally unfocused.
There's 2 simple examples, if you don't think that proves you're wrong, you're CLEARLY just continuing to hate like you've been doing all along.
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Can you tell me the last NBA super star with rings who embraced this kinda stuff on the regular. other than shaq.
So, you admit it's already worked in the NBA?
This post was edited on 7/18/10 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:05 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Lebron is a product of the media. The guy was hyped by his junior year in high school, meaning they had nationally televised games FOR HIM and he wasn't even a senior.
He came into the league and has been one of the best, and most marketable (which David Stern will drool over) players in the league, and will go down as one of the all-time greats. Granted, this move to Miami definitely will hurt his image on the whole, because as Barkley stated, he will never be "the man."
However, this guy has been babied and coddled by ESPN, Fox, and every other large media outlet. That being said, with cameras in his face 24-7 since he was 18 years old, he has handled himself damn well.
I'd have an attitude as well if everyone I ever met told me how great I was, and what I was going to do for the game of basketball. shite...some people are still waiting for him to cure cancer.
If that yahoo article is true, then so be it. That type of behavior is inexcusable, especially when it comes to playing for your country. If there ever was a time to put an attitude in check, that was it.
But beyond that, I am amazed that with everything this guy has to do with the whole world knowing about it, he still has managed to stay out of legal trouble, major locker room trouble (to our knowledge, beyond this yahoo article), and anything else that is explosive.
He came into the league and has been one of the best, and most marketable (which David Stern will drool over) players in the league, and will go down as one of the all-time greats. Granted, this move to Miami definitely will hurt his image on the whole, because as Barkley stated, he will never be "the man."
However, this guy has been babied and coddled by ESPN, Fox, and every other large media outlet. That being said, with cameras in his face 24-7 since he was 18 years old, he has handled himself damn well.
I'd have an attitude as well if everyone I ever met told me how great I was, and what I was going to do for the game of basketball. shite...some people are still waiting for him to cure cancer.
If that yahoo article is true, then so be it. That type of behavior is inexcusable, especially when it comes to playing for your country. If there ever was a time to put an attitude in check, that was it.
But beyond that, I am amazed that with everything this guy has to do with the whole world knowing about it, he still has managed to stay out of legal trouble, major locker room trouble (to our knowledge, beyond this yahoo article), and anything else that is explosive.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:11 pm to shel311
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So, you admit it's already worked in the NBA?
shaq is just a different kinda guy in general but was never anointed like Lebron was.
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Just wow. I'm literally speechless right now.
how does it show focus, sure they are having fun have all the fun they want getting bounced from the playoffs.
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Watch 30 for 30 Tha U, and then try to explain me how that team won a title, since they OBVIOUSLY showed there lack of team focus by there "behavior", as you put it.
seen it a few times, that was swagger b/c they were better than everyone and they knew it and no one was going to stop them that and being college kids. The cavs do it and obviously never won shite.
quote:another dominate team that wasn't going to be stopped and Ditka sure laid the hammer down when it was time to get focused. Lebron and his cast on the other hand not so much, mike brown and the rest of the cavs organization never dared to say anything to them
1985 Chicago Bears. Super Bowl Shuffle. Man, they never should have made that video, because they played that Super Bowl against the Patriots totally unfocused.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:15 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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seen it a few times, that was swagger b/c they were better than everyone and they knew it and no one was going to stop them that and being college kids. The cavs do it and obviously never won shite.
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another dominate team that wasn't going to be stopped
Now you're completely changing the subject.
You're saying with the Cavs it showed there lack of focus, and yet here are other teams that did the same team, and magically, they didn't lose there focus.
Sorry man, if you think some stupid little skit where Lebron takes a pretend picture of the team before the game has ANY effect on what happens on the court, then that is just crazy, IMO.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:18 pm to shel311
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You're saying with the Cavs it showed there lack of focus, and yet here are other teams that did the same team, and magically, they didn't lose there focus.
Sorry man, if you think some stupid little skit where Lebron takes a pretend picture of the team before the game has ANY effect on what happens on the court, then that is just crazy, IMO.
for a bunch of guys that never won a damn thing maybe they should focus on that. Those 2 teams you brought up did their lil antics and never gave a frick b/c no one was going to stop them and they handled their business when it came to game time on the field.
The cavs could just keep dicking around and keep being losers
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:31 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Sorry Straight, but your Lebron hate seems to have you thinking irrationally.
The Bears made the Super Bowl shuffle before they had ever won anything. When Brett Favre would goof around, "he's just a kid having fun out there." Lots of other examples were given.
It seems if people like the team/players doing those types of antics then "they're just great leaders keeping the team loose." If they don't like the player/team, then "he/they aren't focused."
Fact is, NOBODY was winning with that shitty supporting cast Lebron had--not Kobe, not Wade, not even Jordan or Magic. Lebron knew this. Did he spend his time sulking/fighting/blaming teammates? No. He went out there and played some of the best basketball in history.
He has off games in the playoffs like any other star. The difference is that Kobe's team still wins when he has off games and nobody notices. Lebron has off games and the team inevitably gets blown out and it's the lead story on Sportscenter. It's actually remarkable that he was able to stay loose and positive under that impossible level of pressure.
The Bears made the Super Bowl shuffle before they had ever won anything. When Brett Favre would goof around, "he's just a kid having fun out there." Lots of other examples were given.
It seems if people like the team/players doing those types of antics then "they're just great leaders keeping the team loose." If they don't like the player/team, then "he/they aren't focused."
Fact is, NOBODY was winning with that shitty supporting cast Lebron had--not Kobe, not Wade, not even Jordan or Magic. Lebron knew this. Did he spend his time sulking/fighting/blaming teammates? No. He went out there and played some of the best basketball in history.
He has off games in the playoffs like any other star. The difference is that Kobe's team still wins when he has off games and nobody notices. Lebron has off games and the team inevitably gets blown out and it's the lead story on Sportscenter. It's actually remarkable that he was able to stay loose and positive under that impossible level of pressure.
This post was edited on 7/18/10 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:37 pm to Jamohn
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Sorry Straight, but your Lebron hate seems to have you thinking irrationally.
The Bears made the Super Bowl shuffle before they had ever won anything. When Brett Favre would goof around, "he's just a kid having fun out there." Lots of other examples were given.
he brought the football teams into the discussion, i know the video was before the SB but that team still had discipline from the coaches in players that knew when it was time to get it done.
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Fact is, NOBODY was winning with that shitty supporting cast
that excuse doesn't fly when they had the most wins 2 years in a row. That and Cavs/Lebron fans swore up and down that team was capable of winning it all and he would lead them there.
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It seems if people like the team/players doing those types of antics then "they're just great leaders keeping the team loose." If they don't like the player/team, then "he/they aren't focused."
there is a big difference in being lose and big over the top with the theatrics
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:47 pm to Jamohn
I completely agree with Jamohn.
Also, to add to that - this is clearly a hit piece. It's not just unsourced, it's almost berefet of actual facts. Almost everything in the article is a narrative by the writer backed up by nothing, not even anonymous quotes. Look at the long quote in the OP - it's not just that there are unsourced quotes... there's barely even quotes, and the quotes he does have don't verify the narrative.
This is clearly a hit piece. And a hit piece two years after the event that has the slimmest of factual verification is not really worth the time to refute.
Also, to add to that - this is clearly a hit piece. It's not just unsourced, it's almost berefet of actual facts. Almost everything in the article is a narrative by the writer backed up by nothing, not even anonymous quotes. Look at the long quote in the OP - it's not just that there are unsourced quotes... there's barely even quotes, and the quotes he does have don't verify the narrative.
This is clearly a hit piece. And a hit piece two years after the event that has the slimmest of factual verification is not really worth the time to refute.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 1:27 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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for a bunch of guys that never won a damn thing maybe they should focus on that
Miami and the Bears did that shite BEFORE they won anything.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 1:31 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Sorry Straight, but your Lebron hate seems to have you thinking irrationally.
That much is OBVIOUS, lol
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he brought the football teams into the discussion, i know the video was before the SB but that team still had discipline from the coaches in players that knew when it was time to get it done.
Your argument keeps changing. So, you're now saying picking and choosing your example and changing your criteria. DO you really not see how you're doing that?
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that excuse doesn't fly when they had the most wins 2 years in a row. That and Cavs/Lebron fans swore up and down that team was capable of winning it all and he would lead them there.
The go to and cop out argument for Lebron haters. And the best part about you saying this is that I've seen you say MULTIPLE times that Lebron's cast wasn't good enough to win a title. Just another case of you changing your argument again.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 1:33 pm to Baloo
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I completely agree with Jamohn.
Also, to add to that - this is clearly a hit piece. It's not just unsourced, it's almost berefet of actual facts. Almost everything in the article is a narrative by the writer backed up by nothing, not even anonymous quotes. Look at the long quote in the OP - it's not just that there are unsourced quotes... there's barely even quotes, and the quotes he does have don't verify the narrative.
This is clearly a hit piece. And a hit piece two years after the event that has the slimmest of factual verification is not really worth the time to refute.
Great post Baloo.
And guys like StraightCashHomey who just read it and take it as truth is just silly.
You can hate Lebron all you want, but you gotta be able to see through your biases and realize and admit this piece is pretty ridiculous, 2 years after the fact.
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