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re: Would you want an 8 or 16 team playoff in CFB?
Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:22 pm to benhamin5555
Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:22 pm to benhamin5555
4 team or 8 team playoff accomplishes nothing. Unless every conference champion is included in the playoffs it is pointless.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:24 pm to Overbrook
quote:
and every conference should get a
Child please. You will never convince me some shite 7-5 sunbelt champ deserves a shot.
6 or 8 is perfect. Anything beyond that gets too diluted.
They honestly just need to have 5 or 6 big conferences and the crap like the Mac and sunbelt get their own division.
This post was edited on 11/19/13 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:31 pm to benhamin5555
8 with no auto bids or only auto bids for the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, and PAC 12 feels perfect to me.
I'd even be in favor of nixing Conference championship games and going back to 11 regular season games if it meant getting an 8 team playoff. Everyone else who doesn't make it can play in bowls.
I'd even be in favor of nixing Conference championship games and going back to 11 regular season games if it meant getting an 8 team playoff. Everyone else who doesn't make it can play in bowls.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:33 pm to benhamin5555
quote:
I think 4 team playoff is absolutely perfect,
Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:38 pm to benhamin5555
8-12 max
16 is too many
16 is too many
Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:43 pm to tylercsbn9
quote:
Child please. You will never convince me some shite 7-5 sunbelt champ deserves a shot.
Just make them or whoever the worst team to get in is play the #1 ranked top seeded team in the first round.
That way being #1 will still be a really big deal.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:50 pm to benhamin5555
8
You can't give the two top teams a bye. Would be way too unfair.
You can't give the two top teams a bye. Would be way too unfair.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:03 am to TheCaterpillar
The BCS metrics are flawed. No team should be given any credit for a win vs. FCS teams. Teams that play fewer than 9 conference games should have SoS points deducted, and teams that play more than 7 home games should also be penalized. Teams that play BCS OOC road games should be rewarded for doing so, and all conferences should have a CCG. Screw the BCS, glad its done after this season.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:36 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:
4 team or 8 team playoff accomplishes nothing. Unless every conference champion is included in the playoffs it is pointless
So if UCF doesn't get a chance to play for the BCSNC this year it's flawed?
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:37 am to FootballNostradamus
4 teams would be what I'd prefer. 8 teams is the absolute max they can do without ruining college football. 16 would drastically ruin the sport overnight.
There should also be zero automatic bids for conferences.
There should also be zero automatic bids for conferences.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:39 am to Chicken
quote:But there's 10 conferences.
Gets you all 5 conference champion plus 1
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:45 am to benhamin5555
Here's something I crafted a while back. If we'd had an 8-team playoff the entire time and based the eight teams on the BCS standings:
- Have an East bracket of four teams and a West Bracket of four teams. Games played on higher seed's home field.
- BCS #1 and #2 will be split into East and West.
- BCS #3 and #4 will be split into East and West by geography, not seed.
- BCS #5, #6, #7, and #8 will be split into East and West by geography, not seed.
- Arrange the two brackets by seed.
- East winner plays West winner at neutral site for the title.
Here's what we'd have right now:
East
2 Florida State vs. 7 Clemson
3 Ohio State vs. 6 Auburn
West
1 Alabama vs. 8 Missouri
4 Baylor vs. 5 Oregon
Obviously these will change, but there's an idea. I did it for every past BCS season (and I have nothing against post-season rematches, btw). Just to give you an idea of what we could have been watching all these years.
2012
East
1 Notre Dame vs 8 LSU
3 Florida vs 7 Georgia
West
2 Alabama vs 6 Stanford
4 Oregon vs 5 Kansas State
(A&M was #9. Holy crap the meltdown.)
2011
East
2 Alabama vs. 8 Kansas State
3 Oklahoma State vs. 6 Arkansas
West
1 LSU vs. 7 Boise State
4 Stanford vs. 5 Oregon
2010
East
1 Auburn vs. 6 Ohio State
3 TCU vs. 5 Wisconsin
West
2 Oregon vs. 8 Arkansas
4 Stanford vs. 7 Oklahoma
2009
East
1 Alabama vs. 8 Ohio State
3 Cincinnati vs. 5 Florida
West
2 Texas vs. 7 Oregon
4 TCU vs. 6 Boise State
2008
East
2 Florida vs. 8 Penn State
3 Texas vs. 4 Alabama
West
1 Oklahoma vs. 7 Texas Tech
5 USC vs. 6 Utah
2007
East
1 Ohio State vs. 6 Missouri
3 Virginia Tech vs. 5 Georgia
West
2 LSU vs. 10 Hawaii (or 8 Kansas if you have no heart)
4 Oklahoma vs. 7 USC
2006
East
2 Florida vs. 7 Wisconsin
3 Michigan vs. 6 Louisville
West
1 Ohio State vs. 8 Boise State
4 LSU vs. 5 USC
2005
East
2 Texas vs. 8 Miami
3 Penn State vs. 7 Georgia
West
1 USC vs. 6 Notre Dame
4 Ohio State vs. 5 Oregon
2004
East
2 Oklahoma vs. 8 Virginia Tech
3 Auburn vs. 7 Georgia
West
1 USC vs. 6 Utah
4 Texas vs. 5 California
2003
East
2 LSU vs. 8 Tennessee
4 Michigan vs. 7 Florida State
West
1 Oklahoma vs. 6 Texas
3 USC vs. 5 Ohio State
2002
East
1 Miami vs. 8 Kansas State
3 Georgia vs. 5 Iowa
West
2 Ohio State vs. 7 Oklahoma
4 USC vs. 6 Washington State
2001
East
1 Miami vs. 6 Tennessee
3 Colorado vs. 5 Florida
West
2 Nebraska vs. 8 Illinois
4 Oregon vs. 7 Texas
2000
East
2 Florida State vs. 7 Florida
3 Miami vs. 5 Virginia Tech
West
1 Oklahoma vs. 8 Nebraska
4 Washington vs. 6 Oregon State
1999
East
2 Virginia Tech vs. 8 Michigan
4 Alabama vs. 5 Tennessee
West
1 Florida State vs. 7 Wisconsin
3 Nebraska vs. 6 Kansas State
1998
East
1 Tennessee vs. 8 Florida
3 Ohio State vs. 6 Texas A&M
West
2 Florida State vs. 7 Arizona
4 Kansas State vs. 5 UCLA
- Have an East bracket of four teams and a West Bracket of four teams. Games played on higher seed's home field.
- BCS #1 and #2 will be split into East and West.
- BCS #3 and #4 will be split into East and West by geography, not seed.
- BCS #5, #6, #7, and #8 will be split into East and West by geography, not seed.
- Arrange the two brackets by seed.
- East winner plays West winner at neutral site for the title.
Here's what we'd have right now:
East
2 Florida State vs. 7 Clemson
3 Ohio State vs. 6 Auburn
West
1 Alabama vs. 8 Missouri
4 Baylor vs. 5 Oregon
Obviously these will change, but there's an idea. I did it for every past BCS season (and I have nothing against post-season rematches, btw). Just to give you an idea of what we could have been watching all these years.
2012
East
1 Notre Dame vs 8 LSU
3 Florida vs 7 Georgia
West
2 Alabama vs 6 Stanford
4 Oregon vs 5 Kansas State
(A&M was #9. Holy crap the meltdown.)
2011
East
2 Alabama vs. 8 Kansas State
3 Oklahoma State vs. 6 Arkansas
West
1 LSU vs. 7 Boise State
4 Stanford vs. 5 Oregon
2010
East
1 Auburn vs. 6 Ohio State
3 TCU vs. 5 Wisconsin
West
2 Oregon vs. 8 Arkansas
4 Stanford vs. 7 Oklahoma
2009
East
1 Alabama vs. 8 Ohio State
3 Cincinnati vs. 5 Florida
West
2 Texas vs. 7 Oregon
4 TCU vs. 6 Boise State
2008
East
2 Florida vs. 8 Penn State
3 Texas vs. 4 Alabama
West
1 Oklahoma vs. 7 Texas Tech
5 USC vs. 6 Utah
2007
East
1 Ohio State vs. 6 Missouri
3 Virginia Tech vs. 5 Georgia
West
2 LSU vs. 10 Hawaii (or 8 Kansas if you have no heart)
4 Oklahoma vs. 7 USC
2006
East
2 Florida vs. 7 Wisconsin
3 Michigan vs. 6 Louisville
West
1 Ohio State vs. 8 Boise State
4 LSU vs. 5 USC
2005
East
2 Texas vs. 8 Miami
3 Penn State vs. 7 Georgia
West
1 USC vs. 6 Notre Dame
4 Ohio State vs. 5 Oregon
2004
East
2 Oklahoma vs. 8 Virginia Tech
3 Auburn vs. 7 Georgia
West
1 USC vs. 6 Utah
4 Texas vs. 5 California
2003
East
2 LSU vs. 8 Tennessee
4 Michigan vs. 7 Florida State
West
1 Oklahoma vs. 6 Texas
3 USC vs. 5 Ohio State
2002
East
1 Miami vs. 8 Kansas State
3 Georgia vs. 5 Iowa
West
2 Ohio State vs. 7 Oklahoma
4 USC vs. 6 Washington State
2001
East
1 Miami vs. 6 Tennessee
3 Colorado vs. 5 Florida
West
2 Nebraska vs. 8 Illinois
4 Oregon vs. 7 Texas
2000
East
2 Florida State vs. 7 Florida
3 Miami vs. 5 Virginia Tech
West
1 Oklahoma vs. 8 Nebraska
4 Washington vs. 6 Oregon State
1999
East
2 Virginia Tech vs. 8 Michigan
4 Alabama vs. 5 Tennessee
West
1 Florida State vs. 7 Wisconsin
3 Nebraska vs. 6 Kansas State
1998
East
1 Tennessee vs. 8 Florida
3 Ohio State vs. 6 Texas A&M
West
2 Florida State vs. 7 Arizona
4 Kansas State vs. 5 UCLA
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 12:47 am
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:58 am to benhamin5555
I would like a playoff system ?the same way they do fcs, division 2 etc. But I know that's never going to happen so I no longer care as long as I get to watch LSU win.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:02 am to QJenk
If you make conference champions the way to decide who goes, you make OOC games meaningless.
That would be a travesty.
That would be a travesty.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:04 am to KosmoCramer
quote:Absolutely. Being a conference champion only refers to a fraction of your season; the entire season should be considered.
If you make conference champions the way to decide who goes, you make OOC games meaningless.
That would be a travesty.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:06 am to ballscaster
Also winners of the conference championship game waters down the season even more.
A 8-4 team could be in the playoffs.
Do not want.
A 8-4 team could be in the playoffs.
Do not want.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:16 am to Pelican fan99
Six would not be good because the decision of who gets a bye would continue the unfair argument
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:16 am to KosmoCramer
quote:Right again. If we had an eight-team playoff where the eight teams are chosen regardless of conference affiliation, look at the SEC title game and assume it's Alabama and South Carolina.
Also winners of the conference championship game waters down the season even more.
A 8-4 team could be in the playoffs.
Do not want.
If Alabama wins, South Carolina is eliminated from playoff contention, and Alabama gets an overall #1 seed and gets to play two playoff games at home before the national title game. HUGE.
If South Carolina wins, the Gamecocks play themselves into the playoffs, and Alabama loses at least a home game. Also huge.
Big Ten championship game. Undefeated Ohio State with a home playoff game on the line vs. Michigan State with a chance to play itself into the top 8 and the playoffs. Enormous.
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