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Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:38 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:1. That means he's younger, cheaper and has less miles on him
This is the issue
2. I don't think there's a precedent for a running back putting up THAT type of production period as a rookie, but I highly doubt there's a precedent for a RB putting up similar production then falling off a cliff(not including injuries)
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:41 pm to Tyga Woods
No? Why?
Bell at 16mil is worse value than kamara at 700k
Not including the other things:
Age
Touches
Overlaps too much to Ingram
Removes the dynamic receiver aspect, bell doesn't run nearly the amount of routes as kamara.
Bell at 16mil is worse value than kamara at 700k
Not including the other things:
Age
Touches
Overlaps too much to Ingram
Removes the dynamic receiver aspect, bell doesn't run nearly the amount of routes as kamara.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:43 pm to shel311
quote:
That means he's younger, cheaper and has less miles on him
I agree which is why there's no chance I'd trade him.
quote:
but I highly doubt there's a precedent for a RB putting up similar production then falling off a cliff(not including injuries)
You're making part of my point for me. We know Leveon's durability and production, can't say the same about Kamara which is why I'm not willing to say Kamara is definitively better.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:44 pm to htran90
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Removes the dynamic receiver aspect
Bell averages like 90 catches a year.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:50 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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We know Leveon's durability
Which isn't a ringing endorsement. He's only played 16 games once in his career due to either injuries, suspension, or hold outs. It's only 22 games, but so far Kamara hasn't missed a game
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:52 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
We have seen Kamara in 22 games so far including playoffs. It is a large enough sample sizeto judge a RB. QBs is where you take a few seasons because you often see outlier type of seasons from that spot.
In the 22 games we have seen of Kamara he has 22 TDs
His efficiency and production is off the charts. That includes a game against ATL where he suffered a concussion on the opening drive, and Peterson taking away some of his touches early in the 2017 season.
In the 22 games we have seen of Kamara he has 22 TDs
His efficiency and production is off the charts. That includes a game against ATL where he suffered a concussion on the opening drive, and Peterson taking away some of his touches early in the 2017 season.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:55 pm to Tyga Woods
Taking the contracts out I think I would rather have Kamara going forward with the wear and tear Bell has. Once you bring contracts in the equation it’s a no brainer
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:58 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:
Once you bring contracts in the equation it’s a no brainer
This is the point, but saints fans will tell you Kamara is indisputeably better.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:59 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
saints fans will tell you Kamara is indisputeably better.
I haven't seen anyone say that
Posted on 10/1/18 at 1:59 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Not many(or even any) are saying he's indisputably better and I'm not even sure everyone saying Kamara is better is a Saints fan.
This is the point, but saints fans will tell you Kamara is indisputeably better.
Feels like a bit of a strawman here.
It is not at all a crazy statement to say Kamara is better than Bell right now. He has 100% been the better player since the start of last season, so it's not that crazy at all.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:01 pm to shel311
quote:From Mingo?
Feels like a bit of a strawman here
Shocking.
Kamara is younger, cheaper, and at least equal in talent.
So... yeah.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:15 pm to boom roasted
Previous 9 games played:
Back A: 187 rush attempts for 741 yards
Back B: 185 rush attempts for 684 yards
One back wants to be paid 18 million a year. The other back is Adrian Peterson.
Back A: 187 rush attempts for 741 yards
Back B: 185 rush attempts for 684 yards
One back wants to be paid 18 million a year. The other back is Adrian Peterson.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:17 pm to Tyga Woods
I drafted bell for my #1, and I wish a dumb motherfricker would offer me this trade.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:24 pm to Upperdecker
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Kamara could have held out this year if he wanted to
It would have been pointless. Drafted rookies can't renegotiate contracts until after their 3rd accrued season.
quote:
Players picked in Rounds 2-7 sign four-year contracts. The team can extend that contract after the third year by paying a new signing bonus and adding veteran salaried years after the first four. Undrafted free agents sign three-year contracts.
LINK
He would need to be active or on IR for at least 6 games for an accrued season.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:25 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Body of work disagrees. I think Kamara is awesome, but he's in year 2 and aided last year by Mark Ingram. If Kamara does what he's done last year and continued into the beginning of this year, then I could agree, but not yet.
you realize kamara has over 600 yards in 4 games?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:28 pm to TH03
quote:
frick no Kamara is better and younger.
AND, don't bring all the drama to the team like Bell.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:45 pm to Tyga Woods
Hell no. Kamara is an All-Pro caliber back on a rookie deal. How many Super Bowl teams have you seen lately that have RB's with a huge salary?
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