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re: Worst Coordinators in the NFL

Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:09 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:09 am to
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He should be #1.

1. The numbers weren't meant to be a ranking.

2. Carmichael is worse.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:11 am to
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Pickett is garbage



If he had a COMPETENT OC that actually played to his strengths he'd be really good.

Calling Kenny garbage is a garbage take.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:15 am to
What bout Kenny Picket gives you this faith?

He wasn't even good in college until he was a 5th year starter/2nd year senior... in the ACC.

You sound like Jets fans defending Zach Wilson for years, or Alabama fans defending Mac Jones in NE
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:37 am to
QB's learning curves aren't linear. Everyone develops differently. And he's shown flashes of being elite but Canada does not put him in position to be consistent and develop properly. Canada is stunting his growth.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:43 am to
Carmichael has to be number 1. How many games is it without scoring more than 20 for the saints? 15 or 16 straight?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:45 am to
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Calling Kenny garbage is a garbage take.


Ehhhh

He’s pretty bad.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:46 am to
Carl Smith and Danny Abramowicz
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:51 am to
I personally don’t he faith in Pickett, but you let Canada off the hook by saying they have bad talent but not Pickett.
Posted by JohnnyRebel
Colorado
Member since Sep 2014
7214 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:56 am to
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Pederson needs to take playcalling back quickly. There is absolutely zero flow to their offense compared to last season


I thought Douggy P took over play calling last week.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35080 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Ehhhh

He’s pretty bad.


We need to see how he looks w/a competent OC before we come to this conclusion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:13 pm to
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And he's shown flashes of being elite


Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:32 pm to
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Carmichael has to be number 1. How many games is it without scoring more than 20 for the saints? 15 or 16 straight?


How many years is it now since he's been the OC of the Saints? He's obviously doing something right
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:38 pm to
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And he's shown flashes of being elite


When was this?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52880 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:39 pm to
University of Pittsburgh, before S got him hired by Coach O thanks to a thread on the Rant.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49850 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:08 pm to
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only to stink at LSU

That was because of double-digit IQ Orgeron, who didn't understand why we were using so much motion presnap


Two Bs had the same problem with him at UW. Battled all year to run the offense the way he wanted and was finally allowed to against UNL in the championship game.

Hung 70 on them.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:15 pm to
Wade Phillips did it in Denver
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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423392 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:31 pm to
Yeah I mean I'm not really trying to pimp Canada as a good NFL OC (he made the list in OP), but he was good in college.

His presnap sweep motion was 100% taken by the Chiefs and spammed in the NFL the next year.

Pete Carmichael, years after this, with all the data on motion presnap, runs the lowest motion presnap in the NFL in 2023
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44018 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:37 pm to
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How many years is it now since he's been the OC of the Saints? He's obviously doing something right


Yes he was great while Sean Payton was building the offense and calling the plays.
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6113 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:44 pm to
It's surprising Byron Leftwhich is out of the league after one bad year on an offense that had a lot of injuries and zero run game.

I don't wish he was still in Tampa because Dave Canales has done a good job but i was surprised to see he's not employed anywhere.

This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 6:46 pm
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
4991 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:16 pm to
Frank Reich, whatever Coordinator, Panthers. He sucked in Indy calling plays and really sucks in Carolina doing the same thing.
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